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Old 16 November 2014, 14:34   #431
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Always remember that a RNLI helmsperson is a very highly trained individual and that their SOP is never to leave their position and always to have their hands on the throttles at all times
It might be suggested that that is complacent, and complacency leads to accidents: Marine Accident Investigation: Kinghorn
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Old 16 November 2014, 14:38   #432
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ILB helms are human not gods, I know a couple.
I know a couple as well. I'd have said they were kinda inbetween. If I was in the water, they'd take on a God-like appearance fairly smartly.

Lough Swilly RNLI assist in recovering man in the water off Fanad in Donegal

Check the video - the Helm is a RIBnetter from my local cruising grounds
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Old 16 November 2014, 14:48   #433
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If I was in the water, they'd take on a God-like appearance fairly smartly.
So would a WAFi on his Moody 36 if he were the one pulling you back from a trip to Davy Jones Locker.
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Old 17 November 2014, 11:03   #434
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What was that you said ?


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Always remember that a RNLI helmsperson is a very highly trained individual
PS I am not dissing the RNLI but their helms are human !!
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Old 17 November 2014, 11:47   #435
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I said this previously based on information I read here - but some current helms assured me it is not the case.
Fair enough, I stand corrected.
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Old 18 November 2014, 09:04   #436
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We're all human and some of us make mistakes.

Getting back on thread, my dive club has decided we will go the route of cable tie-ing our kill cords to lifejackets, no life jacket no boat handling. And when you change over you have to disconnect from the boat not the person.

I'll let you know how we fair. Just off to purchase a dozen or so kill cords plus a pair of pliers and some cable ties.

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That sounds as though it may present a few problems Simon - it means that you'll have to switch off the engine every time you change the helm. All well and good if you do this tied up, or in sheltered waters with nothing around, but if you're wanting a quick change in any other circumstance, you're not going to get it. Just my thoughts.
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Having been the victim of the capricious nature of even well-maintained outboards, I must confess to feeling very uncomfortable switching them off anywhere where not being able to restart would be a problem.

My normal change over method is to leave the engine running, but keep a firm hold of the kill cord until it is attached to the next helm. Not as foolproof as the multiple kill cord method, but avoids the possibility of that sickening sound of nothing happening when you turn the key.
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I often used to work single handed on ribs with clients aboard. Before berthing I had to put fenders and lines out. I always stopped the engine, in a safe place, and drifted whilst putting out the fenders and lines, then restarted the engine and came into the pontoon or quayside.

It was the same process when leaving, get off the quay or pontoon to a safe place, turn off engine and drift, put away fenders and lines, restart engine and off we went.

If the engine had not restarted I would have deployed the anchor, and then dealt with the problem, but I was never worried that it may not restart.
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John, those were my thoughts too but engine technology has moved on, if I was that worried it would not not start then should I not take such a death trap out to sea?

The balance of risk for me is the key thing, as our chair said of my suggestion "what like a swipe on a till at a pub? Now I understand"

I think a stop less change is possible on our Suzuki another thing to test.


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