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Old 12 November 2014, 08:48   #411
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I seem to remember that in the book Heavy weather power boating, one of the authors argues for not using kill cords in rough conditions, so that if the helm goes overboard, the person who takes control doesn't have to loose time restarting the engine (amongst other reasons). Does anyone agree with that advice? (I realise it's off topic from the Padstow tragedy)
Depending on situation and set up I can see pros and cons, the 'most likely' situation will be the boat has in gear start protection and the departing helm is unlikely to have helpfully dropped backed to neutral on their way out !

So your looking at get to helm, get to neutral, kill cord on -turn key and off you go as a minimum. The merc boxes don't need a second cord ( handy but also risky for clear reasons) , I 'think' modern engines like Yam/ suzy will allow you to restart without a cord for something like 30 secs after its pulled out - precisely for the above reason in time saving.....
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Old 14 November 2014, 08:58   #412
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It might have been Alan Priddy if I have remembered his name right. There are pros and cons at least if your helm has heaved themselves overboard you'll be nearer to them if the motor stops dead.

I dont handle our boat in anything like challenging conditions so will be connected at all times. Next question is how do you safely train out avoidning hooking?
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This event did not happen in rough or extreme conditions though.
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Old 14 November 2014, 10:25   #414
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Interesting comments from the coroner "A coroner is calling for a review of training for speedboat users following the death of a father and daughter." ""They should consider making them compulsory."
BBC News - Cornwall speedboat deaths: Coroner call for training review

"The inquest heard the speedboat's manufacturer APV Marine had rejected a formal recommendation from the Marine Accident Investigation Branch (MAIB) to review the design of its hull."
I was interested in why the manufacturer rejected the reco to review the hull design, after the specific mention in the report about the sudden increase in heel over angle and also a mention of this in some magazine test report a while ago im surprised that people of same model arn't asking some questions ? Other older models dont have the same sudden heal over issue. Naturally the full throttle and tight steering had major issues to why the incident happenned but the report did seem to suggest that the hull design coudl have made the issue more likely to occur. Any 8.5M cobra owners out there been thinking about this ?
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On watching the videos of the actual testing of Milly where they provoked a hook, the hook did not look a particularly violent one. If you go WOT and hard over on the steering in anything with a big engine it's going to get interesting.
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.........Does anyone agree with that advice?
Nope
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Well I certainly don't think it is relevant to the average leisure boater or to conditions that even the more adventurous people on here will normally find themselves in. IF there is an argument for removing the kill cord (and the RNLI agree with the sentiments in the post so it may be valid) then it should be a conscious decision in those specific circumstances rather than a generic excuse for not bothering in the 99% of occasions when the balance of risk is clearly the other way. If you are the sort of person who does boat in those conditions then I guess you'd be thinking about alternative risk mitigation strategies, and have the wherewithal to make your own decisions.
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It's a scenario which crosses my mind from time to time. Me being spat out in heavy seas and Mrs M having to restart and recover. I might just nip down to the solicitors on Monday.
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It's a scenario which crosses my mind from time to time.
It often crosses my mind too. In my scenario, she isn't always able to rescue you...
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It often crosses my mind too. In my scenario, she isn't always able to rescue you...
"Isn't always"? My run through ends with never.
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