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Old 09 May 2013, 13:35   #221
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There is a guy on disco 3 who works on padstow harbour although he can't say much its looking like the kill cord
As for the steering theory I got round Anglesey with a leaking ram but it wasn't a problem it either works or it don't
Looking at the video you can't see anyone in the water thought you may have seen some LJ From a distance
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Old 09 May 2013, 13:41   #222
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Kill cord cannot be the initial cause of an accident.
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Old 09 May 2013, 13:53   #223
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... its looking like the kill cord.
In which respect?
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Old 09 May 2013, 14:02   #224
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I think an antiquated lanyard system is partly to blame... it's 2013, a new engine will costs you best part of 15k, yet we still rely on a piece of orange string clipped to your life jacket !?

My phone can turn my heating on from my office, yet the big 5 Engine companies cant make a simple wireless lanyard system as standard ? Keyless entry on a Ford Fiesta which costs less than my boat comes as standard.

Start blaming the multi-million pound companies that build the engines, not the poor sods that forget to clip on a calm day. Chucking a key fob in your pocket would take 5 seconds, you could still dock, pick up a diver, help a waterskier and wonder around the boat... but when the sh*t hits the fan and you fall out the boat stops - Rocket Science it aint.

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If people are neglecting / forgetting to attach kill cords, would a wireless fob that could be chucked under a seat and the engine run without issue be any better?? Not sure myself. I docked my boat solo over the weekend and removed my KC at the last minute to sort the lines etc, no choice. As pointed out previously education is the key.
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Air in hydraulic steering wouldn't cause a sudden failure -
Last paragraph at the bottom of page 24 of the MIAB report would conclude a different outcome......

http://www.maib.gov.uk/cms_resources...l%20report.pdf

Only a surmise , but is it possible a new (ish?) rib could have had a minor hyd oil leak and caused a similar unexpected engine movement??
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In which respect?
Read the thread on disco3 fella and you may find out
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One early BBC news report said the "jumper" threw a rope in front of the boat and partially fouled the prop before he jumped in. That may or may not be true. If it is, it could account for the slower speed.

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I applaud that action makes a lot of sense
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If people are neglecting / forgetting to attach kill cords, would a wireless fob that could be chucked under a seat and the engine run without issue be any better?? Not sure myself. I docked my boat solo over the weekend and removed my KC at the last minute to sort the lines etc, no choice. As pointed out previously education is the key.
Yup, that is the most likely outcome, though I would like the idea of a wireless system myself.
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I looked through the post and I'm sure that this will be familiar with a lot of you, removing the kill cord running up the front to get hold of a pontoon mooring cleat, hanging on to the pontoon trying to work out how to get to the front or back line before the tide takes you away from the dock, put a small mooring line at the helm, once you flick it over a dock cleat you have all the time in the world, sorry for the hijacking, just trying to make it all safer
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I applaud that action makes a lot of sense
Very very sad event. My thoughts go out to all those involved.

As Stuart said, top marks to the "jumper" his quick thinking and actions have without doubt made a difference e in this tragic story. The gentleman appears to be extremely humble and measured and has refused to make a deal of his actions, he should be applauded for his actions and the way he has conducted himself afterwards in the interest in not causing any further trauma to those concerned.

I hope he has a warm feeling that despite the tragic circumstances he found himself in, he was a true hero and has since conducted himself in a manner that is of a true gentleman.
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