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Old 07 May 2013, 05:18   #141
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That sort of comment drives me mad, it's not a question of being perfect, it's common sense isn't it? how can you defend someone who ignores something as vital as this - they not only puts the lives of themselves and passengers at risk but also other people on the water. Sorry I forgot is simply not good enough.

Unless you have an Etec or a Mercury with a switch on the kill cord you should always carry a spare and the crew should know where it is, or am I being 'perfect' again.
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Old 07 May 2013, 06:15   #142
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That sort of comment drives me mad, it's not a question of being perfect, it's common sense isn't it? how can you defend someone who ignores something as vital as this - they not only puts the lives of themselves and passengers at risk but also other people on the water. Sorry I forgot is simply not good enough.

Unless you have an Etec or a Mercury with a switch on the kill cord you should always carry a spare and the crew should know where it is, or am I being 'perfect' again.
May not have "ignored" the need to clip on the kill cord.

Could simply have forgotten to clip it on. It's easily done. Everyone forgets from time to time.
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Old 07 May 2013, 06:49   #143
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I guess I'm the only one that thinks forgetting these things is not an option, but will put my money where my mouth is....

Anyone who wants a self adhesive graphic in red saying 'KILL CORD' PM me and I'll send you one FOC.
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Old 07 May 2013, 07:19   #144
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Has anyone thought the kill cord seemingly dangling from the kill switch could have been one the chap who boarded the rib used to bring the boat back into padstow harbour?

The helm may have had it clipped to himself and the switch failed.

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Old 07 May 2013, 07:27   #145
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Good to hear Paul Glatzel on the radio 2 putting a view across.....lots of stuff on same show that is maybe not so helpful or realistic or up to date....
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Old 07 May 2013, 07:28   #146
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I hadnt realised how many perfect people there were in this world. I'm sure the rest of us mere mortals are in awe!
Radio kill cords-used some on a demo boat at a show a good few years back and I'm sure the technology has improved since - but I hated them, tested mine and found it didnt always work-refused to continue wearing it and went back to the piece of string.
Were to wear it? Round the wrist and it gets tangled in the wheel boss. Round the leg is our normal but I have seen the cox'n come out of the seat and end up head down/legs up in the bottom of a (coastguard!) rib at speed and his legs hadn't fallen far enough to pull the switch! I leaned over from the aft navigator's seat to pull the cord-scary esp when my daughter shouted from the stern to say sorry that she didn't have chance to shout man overboard. When we looked she was in the boat but hanging on to another crew member who was in the water.
I'm thinking the way forward for us may be a kill cord on every buoyancy aid/lifejacket on the boat and no spare. That way (unless they flip the switch) when you leave the helm the cord comes out and cant be started by another crew member unless he clips his personal kill cord into the switch, and he needs to actually have possession of the buoyance aid. On the other hand we havent had an issue on our boats - as yet!
That's a great idea about the cord on the life jacket. This horrible incident has made me look at what we do onboard and I admit I have been too lazy to enforce kill cord use which is crazy as I am very zealous regarding life jackets and other safety gear. I will order 3 today and fit to the life jackets.
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Old 07 May 2013, 07:43   #147
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Has anyone thought the kill cord seemingly dangling from the kill switch could have been one the chap who boarded the rib used to bring the boat back into padstow harbour?

The helm may have had it clipped to himself and the switch failed.

Mark.
Yes I had the same thought, it is not our place to judge let alone when we do not know the facts!
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Old 07 May 2013, 08:07   #148
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Unless you have an Etec or a Mercury with a switch on the kill cord you should always carry a spare and the crew should know where it is, or am I being 'perfect' again
No not perfect just.......
I said remove our spare-in fact we have several and I mean all of them (may well leave them onboard out of sight) , the idea then is that the spares are substituted by all those on each passenger/crews ljt/buoyancy aids so if someone is left onboard he will have a spare on his jacket that he will have to connect and it will not be devalued by someone grabbing a spare and shoving it in without connecting to himself. Seems simple enough to an imperfect individual like me. Anyway thats the way I'm going, been thinking of it for years and this seems the prompt I needed to do it.
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Old 07 May 2013, 08:19   #149
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Hi folks, Hi Jon,

Following the awful accident over with you in the UK and a similar serious accident here in Ireland last season, I had a few emails over the weekend from people asking about a small piece I did called "Kill Cords Save Lives" a few years ago when I was more active on this forum and before I set up my own Irish boat forum.

The piece can be found both here Length of Kill Cord and also my own forum at Powerboat.ie.

Hopefully, it will be of use to new comers to RIBs and boating.

Kind regards,

Stuart
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Old 07 May 2013, 08:44   #150
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Can we please stop guessing what happened and leave the poor man alone. He POSSIBLY made a mistake and paid dearly with his life and the lives of his loved ones.

The people we should be seriously harassing are the ones still alive and still deliberately driving ribs without wearing the killcord. Seen offenders both yesterday and today.
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