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Old 06 May 2013, 13:13   #91
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Tragic and it is. but its a case of more money than sense!
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Old 06 May 2013, 13:15   #92
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Modern engines kill the motor when triggered by release of the kill cord, If you go to start without the kill cord they come back to life (assuming the engine is returned to Neutral, this usually catches people out in a panic).
At least mine does this function as do most of the modern outboards I've driven. This features is there for exactly the reasons you mention - driver goes AWOL how do you get him back? A spare is always handy, my spare set of keys have said 2nd kill cord. More incase I loose my primary set of keys.
A minority of engines do this, personally I think it's a very unsafe practice and wish the manufacturers would stop trying to differentiate their product in such an unsafe way. Yes a kill cord should stop an engine when it is disconnected but IMHO an engine should not start when the kill cord is not connected, this is a second benefit of nearly every brand of outboard engine.

Merc/mariner get round the problem of the helm falling overboard and taking the kill cord with him by fitting a switch that can be manually operated. Honda used to fit a spare kill cord end onto the control box moulding, most kill cords coul be temporarily replaced with a bit of string or similar in an emergency.
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Old 06 May 2013, 13:25   #93
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Tragic and it is. but its a case of more money than sense!
Could not agree with you more
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Old 06 May 2013, 13:26   #94
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Tragic and it is. but its a case of more money than sense!
Do you know something thats not reported in the press or did you know him personally? Otherwise it seems a rather huge leap to make and I hope you never find yourself in the situation where others are judging you posthumously or not following a cock up at sea.

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A minority of engines do this, personally I think it's a very unsafe practice and wish the manufacturers would stop trying to differentiate their product in such an unsafe way. Yes a kill cord should stop an engine when it is disconnected but IMHO an engine should not start when the kill cord is not connected, this is a second benefit of nearly every brand of outboard engine.

Merc/mariner get round the problem of the helm falling overboard and taking the kill cord with him by fitting a switch that can be manually operated. Honda used to fit a spare kill cord end onto the control box moulding, most kill cords coul be temporarily replaced with a bit of string or similar in an emergency.
I agree with you Doug - its generally a backward step. Often you have a less experienced helm trying to recover someone in what might be tricky weather/waves - precisely when you don't want the stand in helm to go over with no kill cord... Always thought the mercury one was a bit dodgy though as
you could basically just ignore the kill switch if you flipped it up.

Anyone you trust to pick you up can be shown where the spare cord is. Anyone you don't want aiming a boat and prop at your head can be told how to make a mayday!
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Its called a 'kill'cord for a reason.
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Police have revealed the victims names. The father was Nick Milligan, of BskyB, apparently he has been visiting that part of the country since a very young age.

I can't begin to imagine the loss the family have suffered but will be very interested to hear how much boating experience he had, how many times he had driven the RIB etc etc.
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300 hp outboard. Family on board. Lots of other boats in vicinity. Its the pilots responsabilty to ensure safe passage of said large rib. Wear the bloody killcord! Its very basic stuff!!
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Tragic and it is. but its a case of more money than sense!
I think that is a ridiculous statement to make. As if he'd willing jeopardise the lives of his family, and the size of his bank balance doesn't make a mistake any more or less likely to happen.
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The only people who have never made a mistake at sea have never been there and we should all learn from our mistakes, just pray that your mistake when it comes is not a fatal one!
An unimaginable tragedy, so sorry for all involved. And it could have been so much worse-well done the guy who stopped the thing before it claimed members of other families.
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Well he clearly did. ! I really feel for the family and involved persons!
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