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Old 11 October 2012, 17:14   #31
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Its not even English!
I understood every word ....
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Man its seriously messed up if a seller is liable for how the boat is moved from his property. If the trailer is not roadworthy and that fact is disclosed to the buyer, reflected in the sale price, and they then fail to bring a flat bed truck or whatever to tow it away. Or fail to repair the trailer on-site before taking it on a public road, how is this the seller's fault?
If you sell a car with bald tyres and they drive it off as-is instead of trucking it away or replacing the tyres, are you liable for that too?
Over here, as soon as the title is transferred with their signature its their responsibility.
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Its not even English!
Thats as good as it gets Braveheart,and i am south of your border son, so i am English have a look at a map book son
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Old 12 October 2012, 15:05   #35
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Chaps, "buyer beware", once money has changed hands and as such has ownership, what the new owner does with his purchase is his problem. If he chooses to tow a trailer from your drive that has no wheels it is him that is committing the offence not the seller.
If you buy a car without an MOT and drive it home then you are liable not the seller.
An unroadworthy trailer will only let you go through civil claims against the seller only if you were informed that it was roadworthy and subsequently bought it.
If you get caught on the road dragging an illegal trailer that you've just bought then you and only you will be prosecuted.
It is the owner's/driver's responsibility to ensure that his vehicle is legal.
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Man its seriously messed up if a seller is liable for how the boat is moved from his property. If the trailer is not roadworthy and that fact is disclosed to the buyer, reflected in the sale price, and they then fail to bring a flat bed truck or whatever to tow it away. Or fail to repair the trailer on-site before taking it on a public road, how is this the seller's fault?
s75 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 (Road Traffic Act 1988) does indeed make it illegal to supply an unroadworthy vehicle for use on the road. There are some get outs, and the rules for trade seller are slightly different from private ones but either way watching someone hook up a dodgy trailer to their car would probably ruin the defence.
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If you sell a car with bald tyres and they drive it off as-is instead of trucking it away or replacing the tyres, are you liable for that too?
absolutely

I believe it used to be wavelength's job to prosecute people for this sort of stuff. However I don't know if he knows of any case where a private seller actually got prosecuted having clearly stated in an ad that it was not roadworthy?
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I am sure this is not the major factor in this, but are you sure your system is better?
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[QUOTE=Poly;493239]s75 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 (Road Traffic Act 1988) does indeed make it illegal to supply an unroadworthy vehicle for use on the road. There are some get outs, and the rules for trade seller are slightly different from private ones but either way watching someone hook up a dodgy trailer to their car would probably ruin the defence.

This is simply to have the law in words and allow it to be argued. The seller's defence would simply be that it was not intended for use on the road as they had clearly stated. The fact that the buyer turned up with no means of legally removing the purchase does not put the blame on the seller.
Caveat Emptor.....Buyer beware. Still holds water (pardon the pun). There is no defence for knowingly buying an unroadworthy vehicle and then using it on the highway. In this case, "I've just bought it and been told it's OK" simply DOES NOT hold water.
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Thats as good as it gets Braveheart,and i am south of your border son, so i am English have a look at a map book son
Why oh why do you have to bring race into a thread about trailer wts! My good friend and fellow Scot was commenting on the language content not Race!!

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What's a "map book"? Is it like a bible book or a dictionary book?
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