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Old 14 June 2019, 03:36   #1
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Towing with electric vehicles

In the not to distant future when I am dragged kicking and screaming from my very un PC diesel 4x4 is there an electric alternative on the horizon that will enable me to tow a heavy rib a decent distance?
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Interesting article here ! Not sure that it actually answers your question though :-)

https://www.hagerty.com/articles-vid...tm_source=SFMC
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In the not to distant future when I am dragged kicking and screaming from my very un PC diesel 4x4 is there an electric alternative on the horizon that will enable me to tow a heavy rib a decent distance?


In a word no
Make that dinosaur burner last another 10 years & you might be in with a chance.
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What happens when you reverse electric vehicle down the slipway and the wheels into the sea? I use an Audi Q7 and take it back so the rear wheels are about 8" in and the exhaust is a couple of inches above the waterline. It would only take a freak wave to wash over the back. I know my car will be fine but if it was electric.... I'm not convinced water and electricity mix.
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Bit more reading for you:
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The electric Defender that Land Rover built as a development vehicle a few years back had a better wading depth than the diesel powered version. Around 800mm if I remember correctly.

But, battery capacity and towing would be the issue. Not torque though.
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What happens when you reverse electric vehicle down the slipway and the wheels into the sea? I use an Audi Q7 and take it back so the rear wheels are about 8" in and the exhaust is a couple of inches above the waterline. It would only take a freak wave to wash over the back. I know my car will be fine but if it was electric.... I'm not convinced water and electricity mix.
If you think reversing any conventional vehicle that far into the sea is fine , then sooner or later you ( or the next owner ) will be in for a nasty shock . That salty water gets everywhere and the rot starts............
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yep keep the diesel till you have to get rid my neighbour has a self charging toyota and gets 55 mpg out of it on a long run i get just short of 70 with my diesel mini call me old fashioned but where is the ecological saving
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You can't get much better energy density than with direct chemical energy - battery tech just doesn't cut the mustard for practical traction.


The problem is that transport policy is set by townies who have multiple choices when it comes to transport and only need a set of AA's to do a bagel run. Try telling an impoverished hill farmer that they need to change their (only) vehicle for a Scalextric.....mind you they'll be perfectly safe when the powers that be come to enforce things. Big Brother probably wouldn't get up a farm track on a Segway.


I keep thinking of some folks we sort of know who drove to Scotland from down south in their Nissan Leaf - it took them twice as long as everyone else. Lots of time to self congratulate over planet saving quietly ignoring the tons of NOX and sulphur chucked out by the ship that brought their battery from far over the briny. This is the nonsense that's peddled about the environment and climate change. Small changes to our habits and buying practices would have a far larger impact than government 'drives'. Welsh slate might be more expensive for your rockery than Chinese but you can't say it's pollution efficient to drag this or kitchen granite from abroad when we have an abundance here. Ah, but then you'd have to dig a hole in the British countryside and we can't have that now can we. Yet one of the most ecologically diverse areas in the National Park where I live is a (soon to close) sand pit - no dog walkers (btw I'm a dog owner!).



Lastly, when we've all been forced into electric vehicles how are all those people without garages going to charge them? Will they dig up the pavements outside every house for charging points or is it time for a career change into law - for all those negligence claims as the whole world trips over extension leads .


Rant over.
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You can't get much better energy density than with direct chemical energy - battery tech just doesn't cut the mustard for practical traction.


The problem is that transport policy is set by townies who have multiple choices when it comes to transport and only need a set of AA's to do a bagel run. Try telling an impoverished hill farmer that they need to change their (only) vehicle for a Scalextric.....mind you they'll be perfectly safe when the powers that be come to enforce things. Big Brother probably wouldn't get up a farm track on a Segway.


I keep thinking of some folks we sort of know who drove to Scotland from down south in their Nissan Leaf - it took them twice as long as everyone else. Lots of time to self congratulate over planet saving quietly ignoring the tons of NOX and sulphur chucked out by the ship that brought their battery from far over the briny. This is the nonsense that's peddled about the environment and climate change. Small changes to our habits and buying practices would have a far larger impact than government 'drives'. Welsh slate might be more expensive for your rockery than Chinese but you can't say it's pollution efficient to drag this or kitchen granite from abroad when we have an abundance here. Ah, but then you'd have to dig a hole in the British countryside and we can't have that now can we. Yet one of the most ecologically diverse areas in the National Park where I live is a (soon to close) sand pit - no dog walkers (btw I'm a dog owner!).



Lastly, when we've all been forced into electric vehicles how are all those people without garages going to charge them? Will they dig up the pavements outside every house for charging points or is it time for a career change into law - for all those negligence claims as the whole world trips over extension leads .


Rant over.

Diesel still rules for now...when you consider the UK contributes less than 2% of all Greenhouse gasses Globally ...and the Chinese and Indians still building large amounts of Coal fired power stations and both still on an upward curve!
And the UK doing well in its carbon targets compared to most!
....You needn't loose TOO much sleep!
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