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Old 16 October 2006, 03:20   #21
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If you are really stuck....

....do what I did. I left the boat at the bottom of the slip and fixed a strong rope to the front of the trailer and tied it to the front towing eye on my Dad's van at the very top of the slip where the surface was good. I reversed the van (emulating a rear wheel drive with very low gearing) and got the boat recovered no problem. When the boat is on the level just untie the ropes and hitch on as normal.

Although I'm not advocating towing the boat home backwards.....
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Old 16 October 2006, 04:10   #22
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If the Police, Highways Officer etc stop you now they will be most interested in your license (all though they will prob check everything else). Anyone passing their test after 1st of January 1997 is only allowed to tow a MAM (Max Authorized Mass) of 750Kg. So that is everything. Anymore than that and you need to take a separate license B+E. The prob with this is if you are caught worst case you will loose your license as well as a BIG Fine. The Police etc have been lax on it it to give people time etc, but as of New Years eve 06, its all hands to the Weigh Bridge!
Oh and one thing they are hot on is lighting boards, people have this thing about putting them on A Frames. They have to be (I think) a max of 1 meter off the ground so on the a frame is illegal.
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Old 16 October 2006, 07:31   #23
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Get a compressor

My wife bought me a handy little compressor that plugs into the cig lighter (or the little socket for the icebox in the boot on my incredibly gadgety CRV Honda).

Perfect for low pressure starts and checking the trailer tyres have correct psi.

My all up weight is only around 500Kg, but I did have a moment recovering this year when CRV started gently moving backwards towards the briny as I was lashing the boat on to the trailer.

Frantic dive for the door and foot on brake saved disaster. Slip was wet and a bit green.

About £20 for the compressor from one of those 'Xmas present' catalogues you get through the door.
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Old 16 October 2006, 10:27   #24
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Your welcome Pat.
I kinda cheat nowaday's as I use a 3/4 ton 4wd Chevy. Suburban. ( makes a L Rover look like a piss ant as a tow vehicle, just for Codders benifit) However, when going into rough areas I carry a compressed air tank in the back to blow the tires back up. Have only had to use it once when stuck in soft sand. I also always carry two 18" wide x 3ft. long strips of old carpet. Tuck those under the wheels and you are on your way. I HATE BEING STUCK.
That Surburban is more in line with what I need, pretty much the consumate towing vehicle, ride, comfort, power, and let us not forget... TRACTION!
The Blazer will have to do for now, or at least until I have a larger garage...
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Old 16 October 2006, 11:20   #25
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let us not forget... TRACTION!....
Torque and Transmission choice.

Transmission choice is crucial too. An old-fashioned automatic has a torque converter, which multiplies available torque by 1.7 times. Tranmission 'stall speed' comes after the turbo is providing good boost, at 2200rpm, so it is a good towcar.

It compares suprisingly well to my old BMW with large straight-6 (730i). That was a rubbish tow car! It had the right ingredients, but was a manual and had a very high ratio diff, to ensure even spacing of all the gears to 150mph. As a result, it offered very little torque at the rear wheels.
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^^ that's why a front bumper mounted towbar is useful-reverse is usually a lower gear than 1st (not much help on a RWD BMW tho-and it'd look awful!)
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Oh and one thing they are hot on is lighting boards, people have this thing about putting them on A Frames. They have to be (I think) a max of 1 meter off the ground so on the a frame is illegal.
Unfortunately a lightboard must be attached to the trailer and not the load. Thats why trailers have the bars that come out of the back. A frame is a better idea but its just not legal!

I've towed a variety of Ribs behind small cars and had no problems. Planning is the key.
So far I've done;
VW Golf 1.9tdi (130 bhp) 2wd and a 6.7m Delta c/w single 140hp OMC
VW Golf 1.9tdi (130 bhp) 2wd and a 5.5m Humber c/w Single 150 Merc Opti
VW Golf 1.9tdi (130 bhp) 2wd and 6m Ribtec c/w twin 60hp Yamahas
Audi A3 2.0tdi (146bhp) 2wd and a 6m Ribtec c/w single 135 Merc Opti
Audi A6 2.0tdi (180bhp) estate 2wd and a 6m Ribtec c/w single 135 Merc Opti
Audi A4 2.5tdi (180bhp) 2wd and a 6m Ribtec c/w single 135 Merc Opti
Audi A4 2.0tdi (180bhp) 2wd and a 6m Ribtec c/w single 135 Merc Opti

My TDI's tow a rib up a slipway better than any landie will when a bit of rope is used! You actually have more power!

Plus you can drive in comfort to and from the launch site which lets face it never really has been a landies strong point!!!

I have only ever been stuck once but if I'd been bothered to unload the boat and trailer I would have made it out. Instead a tractor did the deed!

Drop me a PM if you want any advice.

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Old 18 October 2006, 09:44   #28
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My TDI's tow a rib up a slipway better than any landie will when a bit of rope is used! You actually have more power!

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Absolutely no chance on gods green earth. As someone who's pulled more than my fair share of fwd and small 4wd cars/suvs etc. out of slippery situations using the torque and (when necessary) low ratio gearbox available in my "school run" 4x4 I am afraid I cannot believe you've written this. If you genuinely believe this then it is only a matter of time before you come knocking on the doors of a 4x4 owner to get you out of trouble.

You are absolutely right when you say that planning is important and you have clearly planned exceptionally well up to date. Please keep planning well as there are many (very appropriately named) slipways ready to catch you out with fwd only, long rope or not.
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If you genuinely believe this then it is only a matter of time before you come knocking on the doors of a 4x4 owner to get you out of trouble.
Or knocking on the door of Audi for a Quattro spec would fix the problem.
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.....My TDI's tow a rib up a slipway better than any landie will when a bit of rope is used! You actually have more power!

What has power got to do with it? Popular misconception. A 750 horsepower racecar would lose the battle with an 80 HP tractor every time. Torque.. multiplied by low gearing and good traction is what you need…



What does my Leyland Daf turn out in terms of HP.. 130 ish?.. want to play tug of war with any of those cars you have listed?
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