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Old 04 October 2013, 02:55   #11
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what weight is stamped on the trailer? if it says 3500kg, then in the eyes of the law it is a 3500kg trailer whether it weighs that or not.
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Length rules don't apply to "indivisible loads" (which boats are).
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Old 04 October 2013, 16:39   #13
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I think an indivisible load becomes an abnormal load as soon as it goes over 3.00 m wide or more than 18.50 m long .
Also why boats classed as an indivisible load only needed white forward facing outer marker lights during hours of darkness unlike other trailers eg caravan that are compulsory all the time .
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Well I just found this:



Could be worth a sticky thread.
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You can go round in circles for days over towing. Even if you're legal if it looks unsafe or wrong they will take you off the road. The golden rule I work by is. If it looks right they won't look any closer. It's rare you get a batard cop nowadays. They don't want the work. If it looks like it's going to fall off the trailer or you're going down the motorway at 10 mph you're going to get nicked
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On motorway cops they pulled a transit flatbed towing a plant trailer with a mini digger on, because it came up on the anpr as having no insurance. They pulled off and the trailer had no number plate on! But that didn't seem to bother the police and was on tv!

Always best to have working lights, number plate, proper lashings, mudguards, safety chain and then less likely to be stopped. Towing too much with a small car - we know the answer to this
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You can go round in circles for days over towing. Even if you're legal if it looks unsafe or wrong they will take you off the road. The golden rule I work by is. If it looks right they won't look any closer. It's rare you get a batard cop nowadays. They don't want the work. If it looks like it's going to fall off the trailer or you're going down the motorway at 10 mph you're going to get nicked

Absolutely agree. BUT, if you're towing in/through Cheshire be warned; the local traffic plod have all been through some 'intensive' training over the past 6 months re. the law as it applies to towing because it had been identified (by themselves) that most of them simply didn't know the rules and regs in sufficient detail...

I'm reliably informed that they're now fully conversant and happy to put their newly found knowledge to the test.

Having said all that, I'm amazed at some of the sights I see being towed (dragged) along our roads on occasions where, as Biffer says, you don't need a detailed knowledge of the law to know that it's just not safe.
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Length rules don't apply to "indivisible loads" (which boats are).
Correct to a point. They only don't apply if the load cannot be carried on a vehicle conforming to C&U regulations ie if the boat could be carried on a artic, then you cannot use the indivisible load exemption.
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what weight is stamped on the trailer? if it says 3500kg, then in the eyes of the law it is a 3500kg trailer whether it weighs that or not.
As far as driving licences and tachographs are concerned, yes. As far as towing vehicles are concerned, it would be perfectly legal to tow a 3500kg plated trailer behind a vehicle not rated to tow that weight, provided the actual weight of the trailer was inside the vehicle's towing capacity.
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I think an indivisible load becomes an abnormal load as soon as it goes over 3.00 m wide or more than 18.50 m long .
Also why boats classed as an indivisible load only needed white forward facing outer marker lights during hours of darkness unlike other trailers eg caravan that are compulsory all the time .
Anything above 2.9m wide or 18.75m long is classed as an abnormal load. These require a 2 day notification to police along with extra marking and lighting depending on the size of the load.
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