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Old 25 April 2009, 13:43   #11
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Where exactly will you be in Spain as if you are 60mls north of Barcelona then you wont be that far from where we are based when down there? I have a little more time now and could put together a longer reply if it helps.

Interestingly, and by coincidence, a few days ago I had a chatter to an old friend of mine who used to sail with me out there and now lives further south. He would certainly confirm that officialdom can be much more assertive where he is and suspects that the very laid back attitude I have enjoyed for more than 20 years is likely to come to an end.

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Old 26 April 2009, 16:16   #12
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Hi,

They didnt give me the option of doing it on my rib, but I dont see why I couldnt??? Might take it down there in the morning.

I took the new rib out on Sat, and all was fine, except the front of the thing is too high. When it comes on the plane I had to sit up on my tool box, but when travelling at low speeds, I had to stand. That was on my own. When my mate (110kg) sat right at the front of the boat, it was much better, but still a touch high. Therefore, my question to you is this? What should I use as ballast? Or should I install a seat/petrol tank arrangment further forward than the steering console? And the compartment right at the front of the boat - whats the best thing to use in here as ballast. I was thinking sand bags, although due to the size of the compartment, I doubt I would fit many in. Advice is much appreciated as this was the 1 and only problem on an otherwise brilliant maiden rib voyage.

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BTW - the rib is a Valiant 5.7m with Mariner 115bhp outboard.
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Old 26 April 2009, 16:18   #13
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Where exactly will you be in Spain as if you are 60mls north of Barcelona then you wont be that far from where we are based when down there? I have a little more time now and could put together a longer reply if it helps.

Interestingly, and by coincidence, a few days ago I had a chatter to an old friend of mine who used to sail with me out there and now lives further south. He would certainly confirm that officialdom can be much more assertive where he is and suspects that the very laid back attitude I have enjoyed for more than 20 years is likely to come to an end.

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Any posts/advice will be taken on board.

What I intend on doing is to keep laminated copies of the vital docs on the boat at all times.
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And the compartment right at the front of the boat - whats the best thing to use in here as ballast. I was thinking sand bags, although due to the size of the compartment, I doubt I would fit many in.
What you appear to be describing is an anchor locker Make sure you have a good length of chain attached to it. I've seen folks try anchoring without chain on the hook and the entertainment value was quite high
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Old 28 April 2009, 05:53   #15
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Authorities in Spain

You can do no more than take your various paperwork mentioned above with you and if things remain unchanged there I doubt if you will have any problems.

There are perhaps a few local issues that it may be helpful for you to be aware of.

In Empuriabrava there have been some upset over the Club Nautic who manage the harbour and are attempting to raise dues from berthholders. They had been threatening to prevent boats not showing discs (proof of payment) from using the harbour but there has been considerable backlash and I believe a legal challenge to their right to do so. Last summer I spoke briefly to a local Spanish Solicitor who owns her own boat and mooring and she was adamant that this should be stopped. I was there only 3 weeks ago when there was no sign of any such enforcement. You say you have the use of a property and mooring which sort of implies it is not yours so it might be an idea to check with owner to see if they can give you advice on this.

In the harbour itself you will see the Vigilante in small ribs patrolling. They are there to try and prevent speeding etc by blowing whistles at people and also act as harbourmasters directing larger yachts to visitors moorings. It may be these chaps who are going to attempt to enforce the payment of the Club Nautic dues but I donít know. It is quite likely that you will use their slip or crane to launch and recover and they may collar you that way. Who knows.

You are most likely to cruise up to and beyond Cabo de Creus. Once you get beyond Cadaques and Portligat there are lots of tiny little coves to snorkel in. However most of the area is part of natural parks which have various restrictions. There are inserts on Local charts showing the boundaries and outlining the restrictions and no doubt almanacs and pilot books of the area will also report the official position. For example Posidonia seaweed is protected so you shouldnít drop your hook into it, not that you would want to do that anyway. There are also speed limits and restrictions on jetski use. But as ever it isnít quite that clear as I understand that a couple of years ago several boats were fined (I am not sure who by) for picking up moorings put down by a hotel / restaurant. As far as I can tell the mooring are still there and used.

You mention that you are new to boating or sailing but if I am teaching a grandmother to suck eggs I apologise. The weather conditions can be very localised and in the summer it is quite normal for a strong sea breeze to blow into the bay of Rosas by mid afternoon. Also in the mornings a thick sea mist can on occasion come down quite quickly. Conditions however out by Cabo de Creus can be very different although donít be put off as there are as previously mentioned some lovely coves to explore.

If you have just done your PB2 then no doubt you will have had various safety aspects drilled into you. I suspect you will find it quite a shock once you are out there as in general the attitude seems to be that Col Regs are for other people and rumour had it that the local lifejacket salesman drowned him self in despair as he hadnít sold a single jacket in 10yrs.

Lastly it can get very crowded out there in the summer season although I was out there a few weeks back and for 4 days saw nothing but a couple of trawlers and a work boat tending the fish farms.

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Thanks all very useful info.

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