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Old 18 November 2007, 21:21   #11
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Not a KNRM boat then. Where does this boat operate? Is it a Reddings brigade boat or another organisation. I spend a lot of time in Holland (and also at sea off Holland) as my daughter is the captain of a windfarm boat out of IJmuiden.

I'l will gladly explain wat we are doing and who we are, but this topic is about a boat who should last long:

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A GEMINI Boat, with Inner Tubes, is technically right

The inner tubes remain 99.9% air tight throughout their 15 or so year Life.

Only metals are 100% airtight

P.V.C FOILS are quick to glue (when done correctly), it is a chemical bond, not a

contact adhesive which is used to construct Hypalon products. The life of a chemical bonded

tube,is well in excess of 20 yrs.
sound like other tubes then we got from them... :-[
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Old 18 November 2007, 21:39   #12
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we disassemblyd the tubes in minutes:
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Old 18 November 2007, 21:43   #13
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To clarify-Gemini Marine Industries are NOT the same company as Gemini Inflatables


This isn't the 1st time I've heard something shockingly bad about Gemini Industries either.
To bad we didn't meet before, could have saved us some money!

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nice new hypalon tubes now ???
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Old 19 November 2007, 03:40   #15
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yes this one's just laying there to be gluid...

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Can you tell us who built your new hypalon tube?
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Old 19 November 2007, 08:27   #17
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Yes, they told us that it has f.e. less wearing out comparing to hypalon, but we experiance that it cracks apart sooner, it's deforming as well. And the gluing is difficult.

On the picture you see his sun living in Belgium who's gluing the tubes to the hull. He just fasten the flaps, not the tubes. It took him only a few houres. The man in Amsterdam, Andrew Hobson of HIBS from Amsterdam is gluing for day's now, that can make a diffrend too...

Henk Wijga

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See my posting before.
This is the companie who also does the repearing for the KNRM: Andrew Hobson. Also English, but he's allright... ;-)

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It is scandalous that something like this happens. As a Ribber you're depending on the advice and expertise of others.
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Did you agree the terms and conditions of supply in advance? Unless agreed otherwise (which may be unenforcable) then goods sold in the UK (and I assume that this applies to sales from the UK to other European countries) must:

* Conform to any description on the packaging or advertising
* Be of satisfactory quality, in that they will last for a reasonable amount of time (with a consideration for cost) are in good condition and safe to use
* Be fit for the purpose they were designed for, taking into account the advertised use
* Match any sample used to sell the goods

As I understand it this legislation applies even if it is a business to business transaction rather than business to consumer. (Although the remedies are different).

You need to formally reject the goods (I suggest in writing), and therefore request a refund. Beyond that you would probably be into legal action - which whilst relatively straightforward in the English Courts is possibly too complex to be worthwhile from overseas in a foreign language.

Of course if you bought the goods from an agent in the netherlands this is all irrelevant although you may have similar legislation. [Edit: if legally he is acting as an Agent, not a distributor or reseller, then the manufacturer would be liable - responsibility lies with the person you paid for the goods.]
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