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14 September 2011, 15:27
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: N Wales Chester
Boat name: Mr Smith
Make: Humber
Length: 6m +
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cos they spend too much time on Ribnet 
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14 September 2011, 18:06
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Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: A large rock
Boat name: La Frette
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200 Suzzy
Join Date: May 2004
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Lets not judge a boat by its hatches! As we all know, every medium to large firm has its fair share of trainees and juniors, and they either won't have the experience or the concientousness that the old hands will to ensure the job is done to the best standard possible. Sadly there are too many people that treat their employment as a means to a pay packet and not a vocation these days.
If you were employing a trainee in a small boat building firm, what would you let them do. Lay up the hull, rig the engine, fit the tubes or fit a few hatches?
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14 September 2011, 18:43
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Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
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Originally Posted by Erin
If you were employing a trainee in a small boat building firm, what would you let them do. Lay up the hull, rig the engine, fit the tubes or fit a few hatches?
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Any of those providing they were correctly trained and supervised! However its easy to point the finger at the trainee. I don't think there is any boatbuilder who can absolutely guarantee that there won't be someone who cuts a corner on a friday afternoon. What matters is how they deal with hiccups when they happen, and how they tighten their procedures going forward (e.g. keeping records of who fits hatches so a problem like this results in an arse kicking retraining; this would also mean you would know which other boats were fitted out by the same chancer so direct after sales activity there). I've seen the finishing on Ribcrafts and its generally a very high standard.
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16 September 2011, 10:40
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Country: UK - N Ireland
Town: Belfast
Boat name: Wicked Lady
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 evinrude
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 19
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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
That looks depressingly familiar  I used "G" clamps to squeeze out the water & then left it for 10 days or so, I'm fortunate that I have a large shed to keep the boat in. The reason I started this thread was to alert other owners to the problem. Any more out there? |
Mines always having to be bailed out, so guess what I have planned for the winter...
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16 September 2011, 11:06
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Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
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Originally Posted by Polwart
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i c wut u did there, how useful! 
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16 September 2011, 11:13
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: West Wales
Make: Vipermax 5.8, SR4.7
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 Opti, F50EFi
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Very handy!
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16 September 2011, 11:27
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Country: Greece
Town: HERACLION
Make: MY ONE
Length: 9m +
Engine: 2*350
Join Date: Sep 2011
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Nowadays there are so many materials that can replace wood. One of these is aluminum whose life is bigger and is much lighter. but
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30 May 2016, 22:15
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Country: UK - England
Town: London
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 8m +
Engine: 250hp
Join Date: Jan 2011
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It's an old post and I never come across it until I experienced the problem! rotten plywood!
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30 May 2016, 22:19
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Country: UK - England
Town: London
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 8m +
Engine: 250hp
Join Date: Jan 2011
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Originally Posted by vandad
it's an old post and i never come across it until i experienced the problem! Rotten plywood!
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31 May 2016, 07:45
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: N Wales Chester
Boat name: Mr Smith
Make: Humber
Length: 6m +
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Eek, how old is the boat?
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31 May 2016, 07:55
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Country: Ireland
Town: Castlebar
Boat name: Clewless
Make: Valiant DR 490
Length: 4m +
Engine: 60 hp ETEC
MMSI: Awaitng one
Join Date: Oct 2007
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I Knew it, I bet that Ribcraft had an Etec engine. The Etec caused the plywood to rot :0. If the rib does not have an etec it must have been moored up to an Etec powered boat at some stage.
TSM
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31 May 2016, 10:44
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Country: UK - England
Town: Wild West
Boat name: No Boat
Make: No Boat
Length: under 3m
Join Date: Jan 2008
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Originally Posted by Vandad
It's an old post and I never come across it until I experienced the problem! rotten plywood!
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Not good for sure...but Pikey is on his Third Ribcraft!....and second NEW Build...if that means anything!? 
I do hear on the Grapevine Ribcraft have sold Two complete new Foreign Franchises to join the one in the U.S.  So world domination is still on track!
...Ammo for Boris!?? 
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31 May 2016, 11:22
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: north ayrshire
Boat name: charlie girl
Make: S/R5.4/regal3760
Length: 10m +
Engine: Suzukidf70 2x6lp 315
Join Date: Jul 2009
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Originally Posted by two stroke mick
I Knew it, I bet that Ribcraft had an Etec engine. The Etec caused the plywood to rot :0. If the rib does not have an etec it must have been moored up to an Etec powered boat at some stage.
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This made me lol as it's exactly what I thought!
Our kids sailing club has 3 ribcraft and one ribtec the ribcraft are all still fine despite being left in the water 12 months of the year with minimal maintenance and getting hammered by all and sundry Inc teenage dinghy instructors
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31 May 2016, 11:29
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: N Wales Chester
Boat name: Mr Smith
Make: Humber
Length: 6m +
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From being on the forum a while it does seem like due to the nature of the "small" rib manufacturing industry being so fluid, many makes have periods where build standards suffered. That seems to include many reputable brands that were owned by different people at different times.
As with everything, buying new or second hand requires significant investigation and ideally IMHO a marine surveyors report unless you are buying new enough for a warranty. Just like a car/house/plane/jewellery or any other asset worth more than you personally aren't arsed about!
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31 May 2016, 14:32
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Country: UK - England
Town: London
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 8m +
Engine: 250hp
Join Date: Jan 2011
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It's not an old rib and very little use... It was also kept under dry storage space for a while - just poor design and negligence of the manufacturer can explain this...
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31 May 2016, 20:15
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,872
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Originally Posted by Maximus
Not good for sure...but Pikey is on his Third Ribcraft!....and second NEW Build...if that means anything!?
I do hear on the Grapevine Ribcraft have sold Two complete new Foreign Franchises to join the one in the U.S. So world domination is still on track!
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More spin than a Warnie flipper and no dodgy spelling. Alistair Campbell would've been proud of such fine work.
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31 May 2016, 20:22
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Country: UK - England
Town: Wild West
Boat name: No Boat
Make: No Boat
Length: under 3m
Join Date: Jan 2008
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More spin than a Warnie flipper and no dodgy spelling. You could grab a spot in the Labour party press dept with work like this. |
Matt h is more you're speed Mate 
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31 May 2016, 20:50
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Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
Join Date: Aug 2005
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Sorry, you've lost me on that one. 
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31 May 2016, 20:53
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 11,622
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Max - you know the rules. Stop! Willk's back in Wifi range, and getting all frustrated at being off the boat, don't give him an excuse.
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31 May 2016, 21:44
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#120
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: west mids /tywyn
Boat name: HAWK
Make: RIBCRAFT/ Suzuki 250
Length: 7m +
Engine: Tohatsu 3.8/15hpsuzi
MMSI: 235086594
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 4,270
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Max - you know the rules. Stop! Willk's back in Wifi range, and getting all frustrated at being off the boat, don't give him an excuse. |
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