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Old 12 July 2009, 12:38   #51
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Imagine being out at sea in heavy weather. You fall in, and take your kill cord with you. There is no chance for your crew to start the engine again, and pick you up, unless they have access to a spare cord. One extra kill cord should be kept onboard, I assume....
Yes, the tip given here is to have a spare around the wheel and, given their low cost, perhaps one in a passengers pocket!

I am the new kill cord evangalist...
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Old 12 July 2009, 13:55   #52
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My problem with killcords is remembering to put them on. So now I have a strip of "male" Velcro on the clip end of the killcord and a patch of "female" Velcro stuck to the console in clear sight of the helm. I unclip and stick it on - it's then a visual reminder for me to put it back on later. Before this the damn thing would hang down the side of the jockey and go unnoticed.
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Old 12 July 2009, 16:12   #53
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My problem with killcords is remembering to put them on. So now I have a strip of "male" Velcro on the clip end of the killcord and a patch of "female" Velcro stuck to the console in clear sight of the helm. I unclip and stick it on - it's then a visual reminder for me to put it back on later. Before this the damn thing would hang down the side of the jockey and go unnoticed.
Excellent idea Willk. I donít put my killcord on until I am clear of the mooring and all lines are put away and we are ready to go to sea. But I admit that so often I forget and it is not until I am a mile or so out that I notice, especially if the harbour entrance is busy and there is a lot to concentrate on. Itís my 15yr old son who is much better at remembering.

Also I have always kept the spare killcord in one of the flare boxes on the A frame with another ready to go on the Aux. I might also have one attached to each lifejacket so that by default everybody has one.

Over Easter I was practising MOB routines with my son and one of his pals but we always rehearsed the routine of a passenger going over the side not the helm. Next time out we will practise a helm and kill cord over the side. Also I think we will do it a couple of times with one of us jumping not just chucking a fender. After all the water is warmer now!

When my dad was teaching me to sail (too many years ago) he would do MOB practise without giving us any warning at all (FenderÖ. he didnít jump without warning). What do others do? I think there are several RNLI chaps who contribute to this forum. Perhaps they could recommend a suitable practise routine.

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Old 12 July 2009, 21:37   #54
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My problem with killcords is remembering to put them on.
I used to clip mine onto the wheel - impossible to forget doing that. I seem to have got out of the habit lately ... must start doing it again.

Mine kills the engine when pulled but the engine can be restarted without it once back in neutral - seems like a good idea I guess, but I still carry another cord in the console anyway, wouldn't like it to break one day miles from home and have to come home without it.
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Old 13 July 2009, 03:37   #55
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I have seen my brother in law shoot across the Torbay in my in laws Rib with no kill cord attached a he thinks he knows what he is doing.

When on ours the first thing that is attached once we are clear of any mooring is the kill cord. Spare is attached to my wifes lifejacket.

It is also a condition of most insurance policies that a kill cord is attached at all times...So if you go overboard with no kill cord attached and you plough into someone else or something else or worse then there is every chance that the insurance company wont pay out
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go 'youtube' for a few more and surprise yourself !
Please note that I emphatically did *not* say that it wouldn't happen. I said that NFB steering would make the "go to full lock" thing less likely (which is the point of NFB steering: the force on the motor does not go back to the wheel.)


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One extra kill cord should be kept onboard, I assume....
My Honda 40 had a little receptacle that held a spare killcord key on the tiller handle. Thought that was a great idea. I was a little surprised that the bigger Yamaha (F115) came with a single killcord key (attached to the cord, of course), and no spare. I've since remedied that (though the spare is, while accessible, not exactly intuitively placed. I need to make up a label that will guide folks to the spare cord.)


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I simply drape mine over the throttle lever. Makes it hard to forget. If I'm doing some slow running in calm water, I clip it back on itself in a loop, and hang it over the throttle lever. Before anyone asks, I've never had a problem with the lever being jammed by the cord.

I have, however, always worried that sometime, while tied up on the dock, someone will steal the cord and key as a way of vandalizing without physical harm. Hasn't happened, though.

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I have, however, always worried that sometime, while tied up on the dock, someone will steal the cord and key as a way of vandalizing without physical harm. Hasn't happened, though.
Better class of vandal in Oakland, obviously. Just some jovial blokes who slip about filching killcords and chortling about it afterwards (ho ho, wish I'd seen HIS face!)

You wouldn't be worried about them actually going for the old physical harm and having the whole rig then?
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You wouldn't be worried about them actually going for the old physical harm and having the whole rig then?
Getting off-topic, but...

I'm talking about when the boat is in the water, and I'm (at least somewhat) nearby. Between dives, the boat often sits at a temporary tie-up for an hour or two while I grab lunch, get air fills, or whatever. The temp tie-up is often visited by sightseers looking for sea lions, sea otters, or other wildlife. Though vandalism does happen (this is actually in Monterey, about 100 miles south of Oakland), it's fairly rare that it is anything damaging occurs (too many other boaters around to allow something like that to happen.) Plus, the harbor I launch out of houses the local Coast Guard station and the Monterey Fireboat, so people tend to toe the line moreso than harbors with no LE presence (they're both pretty active on an on-going basis either on calls or training.)

Petty theft in Monterey, however, can, at times, be quite rampant. And, it's perpetuated by a larger group of people, as someone who would never damage something expensive, for some reason, will grab something that's not even particularly valuable if it's at hand.

I wouldn't leave anything loose on the boat on the streets or waterways of Oakland and still expect it still be there when I returned. Luckily, the boat sits on the side of the house when there, safely tucked behind a fence (and in a quiet neighborhood.) I don't do a whole lot of boating in the SF Bay area, as all the diving is in Monterey or a further distance to the north.

So, bottom line, no, I'm not too worried about boat theft while I'm there, but the little stuff goes missing too often for my liking.

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I am guilty of not using the lanyard as we call it,this thread has brought home the message.
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