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Old 09 July 2009, 18:05   #31
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Those that know me have often heard the tale of when Steve Mcfaddern (Phil, Eastenders) made a complete bollox of trying to leave same beach in a small dinghy. A mate of mine carried his G/F of the time (Lisa, Eastenders) over his shoulder a dumped her head first into a 1/2 swamped 2.6m Avon whilst we held it.

Did he sail off into the distance saying 'Gertcha .. were 'avin a fresh start' and .. did you puncture his aft tube while you were at it

*edit* obviously not since hes done another series
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Old 09 July 2009, 18:11   #32
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Did he sail off into the distance saying 'Gertcha .. were 'avin a fresh start' and .. did you puncture his aft tube while you were at it

*edit* obviously not since hes done another series
We got a slightly embarrassed "Cheers lads". Same voice, there's not too much acting going on there.
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Old 09 July 2009, 18:39   #33
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The 2HP was running at full beans as we had been trying to get up speed to run onto the sand and had swung hard over. So now there I am trying to grab the boat which is spinning round with 2 kids and my B in law hanging on for dear life.

I missed grabbing it and realised that the engine was about to run over my leg so quickly scrabbled out of the way and the engine missed by inches. Luckily by B in law then cut the throttle and we walked the boat in.

All this happened in water that was less than 2 foot deep.
Yikes. That was a near one - particularly with the kids on board too.

I'm rapidly developing propellorphobia! Which is a proper phobia - if you see what I mean.
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Old 09 July 2009, 18:42   #34
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1 - This engine does not have a killcord so I have adjusted the throttle friction so that you have to hold it in position and if you let go it springs back to idle.
you can get retrofit killcord kits if you won't to for the safer option
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Old 09 July 2009, 20:54   #35
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I dont think some peeps realise how likely scenario B actually is, since, as soon as you let go of non hydraulic steering the outboard will go to full lock
Why? I have cable steering and mine doesn't.

Admittedly a failure in the steering system (which may be the reason for being thrown out of the boat in the first place) will cause it to go to full lock but that's a bit different, if I fell out of mine due to being a lumbering oaf with no sense of balance, it would just keep going.

I always wear a killcord though so I hope it would stop - swimming in a Fladen suit is however something I would prefer not to try even over a short distance
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Old 10 July 2009, 00:03   #36
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It has been fun reading about everyone's experiences regarding kill cords. I have to admit I have become somewhat lax about wearing mine but with testimony from all of you, I can assure you I will make sure mine is on each and every time I set out. Thanks for the reminders. One can never be too safe.
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Old 10 July 2009, 01:40   #37
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I remember the late great Shaun White saying that sometimes they caused more problems than they solved.
Late? - from a prop accident by any chance?

In any case, great post JK!

It amazes me how many boaters around these parts can't be bothered with kill cords. A buddy of mine took a introductory boater's safety "course" (basically a 4 hour classroom session), and no mention whatsoever was made about kill cords! Since he was already aware of the importance of kill cords from the times he's been in my boat, he asked the instructor about this after the course had ended. He was told that it was not part of the curriculum of the introductory course (the one that is now mandatory for rec boaters in Canada), but that it does get discussed in the more 'advanced' courses.
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Old 10 July 2009, 02:53   #38
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Why? I have cable steering and mine doesn't.
Lucky you .. If the trim tab behind the prop doesnt balance the prop thrust, (and sometimes its impossible to get it right) and you have a fairly hefty motor as I did, say 135 with manual steering, by the time you get up to full speed, the 'pull' on the steering was considerable. Mine was a particularly bad example, but it is not uncommon, as my research for the problem proved. Either yours is balanced perfectly somehow and/or you have a fairly heavy boat, where the effect may seem less so. The boat in question for me was quite light, but I can assure you .. letting the helm go at full chat on that craft would have been suicide, and I often worried about component failure elsewhere in the steering system because of that.

Its a very good argument for fitting hydraulic steering
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There ARE times when wearing a kill cord is not a good idea.

Do the RNLI and other rescue services use them?

I remember the late great Shaun White saying that sometimes they caused more problems than they solved.

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You speak as though you have this wealth of experience/knowledge and refer to the the late Shaun White as though he was friend of yours .

The RNLI do not wear kilchords and I could bore you to death about the new rescue boat code of practice regarding this and throttles .

RLSS UK Rescue Helm do by the way .



The point John is making and makes it very well is that if you do not wear a killcord because you are either stupid -lazy -forgetfull or just think you are a indestructible and nothing will happen to you . The results can be pretty life threatening.

This forum is read by leisure users who come on here seeking advice -help and banter if you want to go on a rescue site there are plenty out there where you can give it large. My point is think before you start typing your thoughts and who will be reading them.

Bottom line no killchord on you may as well have the grim reaper sat on your boat.
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Old 10 July 2009, 03:30   #40
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Well obviously it won't work on a boat with jockey seats but on a racing boat like Cookees they work very well!!!

I used to drive an old Fletcher Bravo with one - it was brilliant.
There is a time and place for foot throttles and jockey seats probably isn't it. However as Lewy will testify in the right boat they work really well and free up both hands for steering, it's probably why cars have done it that way for quite some time now! Of course of you do leave the seat you still need a kill cord as the engine will still be going at least at tickover speed, and if you have full lock on it could still get messy.
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