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Old 16 September 2002, 15:49   #1
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Things I'd wish I'd known

I am sure we have all learnt things the hard way by making expensive mistakes or gone through an embarrasing or awkward experience, which could have been avoided, had we known what to do:

So lets have a thread with some usefull tips to avoid future pitfalls
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Old 16 September 2002, 15:56   #2
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Powertrim

Powertrim packed up on me one day and engine was stuck in lowered postion, did I know what to do years ago ?, had some fun trying to recover boat with a 100hp merc stuck down.

Eventually figured out there is a plastic pressure release screw (which requires a very large screwdriver) to allow the engine to be lifted.

This also came in handy the other day when I saw some other chap on the slipway having the same problem trying to recover his boat , scraping the leg up the concrete because it was also stuck.

Turned out that the contacts on the throttle control button simply needed cleaning and then worked perfectly.
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PVC and buying secondhand

Never buy a PVC rib which you are told only has: 'a couple of leaks on the seams' and will be 'a piece of p**s to repair'. They aren't. if the seams start to go on PVC ribs (such as Tornado's) they are nigh on impossible to repair as the leak just keeps springing up further long the boat! My only way out was a re-tube!!!!!! Expensive lesson learned. Always go and spy/view on any prospective purchases prior to departing with any hard earned cash, to ensure the damn thing stays inflated!!! Don't believe any 'I let it down at night' stories!!!
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At the end of a hot days diving, with the boat hauled up the slip and hitched on the car we changed out of the sweaty drysuits into normal clothes. Wet diving kit wasn't going back in the car, so the lads were told to leave it in the rib, which they duly did.

Six sets of diving kit looked heavy on the trailer tyres so I thought I would check the trailer nose weight on the car too. Unhitching the trailer was fine, only the trailer wasn't quite at the top of the slip, and yes it started to roll back down. We did our best to stop it, but 5 seconds later there was big splash as boat, trailer and lighting board hit the water and lauched itself across Strangford Lough. Pity all the drysuits and fins were in the rib or we might have been able to salvage the situation. Instead we had to turn to another dive club and ask them to get our boat back. They did but it took some time for the laughter to subdue & the tourists eating fish an chips on the harbour wall thought it was great fun. That was in 1991 and people still ask about it!

Don't even ask about Senen in Cornwall.

JK this is a great idea, how about a "confessional" web page?
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Old 17 September 2002, 09:51   #5
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JK this is a great idea, how about a "confessional" web page?
I'm not sure there's enough disk space on the server

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Old 17 September 2002, 10:56   #6
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OK I'll bite.
What happened at Sennen then?
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Senen ? Noooooo, well okay.

The scene, an August Saturday lunchtime, scorchy hot, tourists everwhere eating fish and chips (again).

The gentle slip we had been told about turned out to be 45 degrees! and drops about 30 metres onto soft sand. Lots of revs from the V8 Landrover and the tourists leg it off the slip as 45 feet of rib and tonka toy decend downwards onto the sand only for the landrover to dig straight in up to the axles.

unhitching the trailer doesn't help even with eight lads pushing she just goes down further. Eventually with lots of brute force and ignorance we get the two front wheels back on the slip.

Abandoning the Landie the rib and trailer are pushed into the sea and the rib floats off, err well no actually. Okay push the tailer a bit further. Nope, the rib still won't float, hmm okay further still until Mal standing at the stern can't touch the bottom any longer. Okay rock the boat from side to side its got to come free. By now the sweat is running down inside the drysuits and eight lads are completely b******s.

Eventually Mal sees a little piece of rope disappearing over the back of the transom down to the trailer. Yep the one that meant to stop the rib falling off the trailer down the M5. Didn't even think about trying to untie the knots just touched it with a knife and bang the rib is free and the trailer is in five feet of water below. Trailer dragged out with the 40m shot line and everthing secured. We did dive but missed slack water and ended up drifting over flat sand in the middle of nowhere.

Returning to the slip tide had gone out and left great big rocks everywhere, real fun trying to move the trailer and rib over that lot. Not to worry we will use the rope again afterall its a climbing rope bound to be strong enough. Nope, and with a twang it parted in spectacular fashion narrowly missing the remaining tourists who were running for there lives by this point. Finally got it hitched up and set off into oh, about 10 hours of August Bank holiday traffic, all trying to get out of Cornwall to go home. Use Falmouth next time, the town slip is the dogs. Pete
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Things I'd wish I'd known..............

Where to start?!

- Buying a new RIB with an old Johnson VRO Gulf import job engine is a good way to become aquainted with your local filling stations and to become their #1 customer! Fuel efficiency? No thanks!

- We all know about starting the engine without the kill cord or whilst in gear (or trying to anyway) but one time at Calshot we just couldn't get the bl**dy thing started at all. Hauled it out and sat there figuring til we realised that we'd forgotten to push the key in to actuate the choke. Did that and hey presto it started! (Actually to the assembled masses we looked like we knew what we were about as we'd had the cover off the engine, tinkered for half an hour and managed to start the engine in the end!)

- The ebb tide through Portsmouth Harbour runs about 3.5kts. When you can make 4kts max on your aux outboard and the IOW ferry is bearing down on you, life can get a little interesting. And of course there's never a power boat around for a tow when you want one!

- It helps to untie the boat before you try to launch (Thames Cruz this year) and it also helps to take the prop bag off as well! (1st trip in Blue Ice). Yep, I still have the occasional brain fade after four years of Ribbing!

- If you travel at 12kts in a Scorpion Cabin RIB in the English Channel blowing a F5 you get very wet indeed. If you go at 25kts you remain dry!

- Sods law says that anytime I think "nah, wont bother with the drysuit today" within 10mins of leaving port I get a hefty dollop of briny down my neck and am soaked for the rest of the day!


Theres much much more but thats a start. The fundamental lession is that I'm poverty stricken (to buy the RIB) and in pain (having put my back out RIbbing) but absolute love it!

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Check that the overheating warning buzzer is fitted and/or working.

I had just taken delivery of my first RIB, a second hand humber with 2x50hp Johnsons on the back. We were having great fun on the Thames going flat out when one engine inexplicably stopped and would not restart. Looked over the stern to see a shopping bag just below the surface and consequently had to rebore the engine at a cost of over 2,500. Also had alarms fitted that have since alerted us to plastic bags and other debris clogging up the intake in plenty of time to stop the engine and clear the obstruction before any damage occurs.
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How about these for a few:

- make really sure the trailer is securely connected to your car before you reverse down a steep slipway

- politely decline any offer of mechanical help from Paul Lemmer, however desperate you are (cost more for an engineer to undo the "help" than it did to fix the original problem!)

- if you must leave your RIB outdoors for long periods, do bother to cover it up

- even if your RIB is well covered up, do check on it from time to time

- carry spare bearings for your trailer (even if you don't know how to change them, at least you'll have the bits when you find someone who does)

- entry to Hull marina is tidal, and the waiting facilities are rather limited

- if you wear a hat, tie it on to your lifejacket strap so when it comes off it doesn't go overboard

- when you take your goggles off, take them right off and put them somewhere safe. Don't leave them perched on top of your head where the slipstream will catch them . . .

- when asked about the weather, Alan Priddy always says "it's clearing"


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