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Old 28 June 2009, 22:11   #11
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Interesting - I've often wondered how far the internal tank on my aux would get me, if its only 3 miles then I must do something with the spare fuel hose I got ... I've been meaning to order a portable tank to use with it but reading the above I think I will make up something so that in emergency I can pull the fuel hose off the water separator on the transom and plug it into the aux external tank input.

I get about 4 knots on my 6hp at a bit over half throttle, more throttle than that generates a hell of a lot more noise and vibration and probably fuel consumption, and gets about another half a knot, so when I have used it I have tended to leave it on just over half and steer using the main engine as a rudder - its a bit of an unresponsive pig but more comfortable sitting up front
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Old 29 June 2009, 06:30   #12
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Great read,
A couple of weeks ago we had the main engine fail just off the Flannan Isles, 20 odd miles from the Isle of Lewis, we switched to our 8HP Aux which moved our 5.4M Searider at about 5 kts. Unfortunately the gearbox died after about 40 mins and the VHF started to look like the only option. After a bit of soul searching, praying and swearing we managed to get the main restarted and make it back home, I think the remoteness is the worrying part, even with the binoculars there were no other boats or ships visible.
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Old 29 June 2009, 07:41   #13
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Great read,
A couple of weeks ago we had the main engine fail just off the Flannan Isles, 20 odd miles from the Isle of Lewis, we switched to our 8HP Aux which moved our 5.4M Searider at about 5 kts. Unfortunately the gearbox died after about 40 mins and the VHF started to look like the only option. After a bit of soul searching, praying and swearing we managed to get the main restarted and make it back home, I think the remoteness is the worrying part, even with the binoculars there were no other boats or ships visible.
Thank you. Now yours was a real adventure, pushes mine into the shade. Yes, it is the remoteness. Best to sit down straight away before the crew see the knees buckle. In my defence, I was asked to give my tale a bit of drama. It is all true.

Though worrying, the remoteness does make one dig deep and awaken inbuilt survival instincts. You know you're on your own so you just get on with it. Real seamanship is as much about an attitude of mind as it is about boat handling and navigation. I am ever grateful for the things I learned - on my first ship, straight out of college - from Jim, an AB on his last voyage, who spent twenty five years sailing square riggers round the Horn. Not a lot phases you after listening to, and being taught by, a man like that.
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Old 29 June 2009, 10:11   #14
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Many thanks for all the comments and feedback on my adventure. It was worrying at the time, but in the the great scheme of things a bit of a minor incident. I'm pleased though that it's stimulated thought and a good discussion. I know I'll be working out a way of getting fuel out of the main tank more easily.

willk : I've got some of the older 'squeezy bulb' type syphon pumps. They don't like petrol, but would be ok in an emergency. Didn't have one aboard then. I pulled the priming bulb side of the pipe off the water separator. Didn't think of getting the pipe off after the bulb. I think that would be best in case there's not much fuel left in the main tank. No, I didn't go ashore at Uamh nan Gall so didn't see the cave. Will try next time.

Thanks JSP.

Praise indeed Codprawn, thanks. Agree, jiggle syphon no good, but a priming bulb and some lengths of pipe might be a good idea?

neilda, chewy, Nos4r2, IBWET : Thanks.
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Old 29 June 2009, 10:49   #15
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Thats one heck of a story. Had me on the edge of my seat!

How do you get the aux on the transom of the destroyer. Its an odd shape of a thing and I looked at mine and have wondered just how to get an aux on to it.

Also love your rib tent. Where did you get it? Cost?
I fastened a piece of wood to the transom, as thick as the 'lip' along the top edge. Unfortunately, the wood plus transom was too thick for the aux. clamp bracket. So had to fit another piece of wood to the first bit and higher, so the motor could clamp to that. It works, but that's the reason the motor's too high when running. I've just looked and haven't got a picture showing the thing so hope you can imagine. Incidentally, it's the old style horizontal transom, not the groovy curvy one.

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About £60.00 's worth of various special sticky tapes, eyelets, stretchy ball fasteners, etc, all from the tarp websites. The windows came later. I bought the material from a tent material supplier, can't remember who. About £20 for a large amount. Biggest expense, apart from my labour was about £150's worth of stainless tubing for the supports and some welding of brackets etc.
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Well. I'm a keen camper and ribber, but hadn't thought about combining the two, still trying to work out where you lie down?? Nice bit of tentgeneering though

I should have explained myself better in my previous post. Obviously the jiggle syphon won't lift fuel from a main tank - but will do a tidy and safe job of filling an outboard "internal" tank when in situ on a transom. Good for lots of other things too

Taking the fuel line off the engine side of the bulb was what I had in mind for "milking" fuel... I think it shoud work, slowly, as Nos said.

Once again - nicely handled on the water!
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Well. I'm a keen camper and ribber, but hadn't thought about combining the two, still trying to work out where you lie down?? Nice bit of tentgeneering though

I should have explained myself better in my previous post. Obviously the jiggle syphon won't lift fuel from a main tank - but will do a tidy and safe job of filling an outboard "internal" tank when in situ on a transom. Good for lots of other things too

Taking the fuel line off the engine side of the bulb was what I had in mind for "milking" fuel... I think it shoud work, slowly, as Nos said.

Once again - nicely handled on the water!
Cheers. I put a 'hammock' from tube to tube across the bench seat. Use dry bags full of kit to fill up the gaps and as a pillow. Gets quite comfortable after a while, but it might not be if you're nearer 6ft. than I am. If there's more than a ripple on the water though, it gets very noisy if your head's on the tubes.

Advantages - Comfortable, spacious, full headroom. no - or few- midges. No cows, deer, sheep, gamekeepers or people in peaked caps. The boat's insured while at anchor.

Disadvantages - Haven't worked out how I could fit in a girlfriend. Most ladies find the Sunseeker in the corner more enticing. It being so large, the tent's a bit dodgy in force 6 or more.
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Alystra - it's really quite intriguing, dare I inquire about your cooking arrangements, which I suspect you have sorted?

I'd not bother with the girlfriend/rib-camping thing (although I'll admit I was wrong about the rib/camping combination itself). I think it's fraught with risk. If she likes it, you'd have to marry her .
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