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Old 30 August 2012, 19:45   #21
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Make sure the slip doesn't just end half a metre further when in murky waters
All of ours do, at least at low tide, seems to come with the territory around here.
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Old 30 August 2012, 20:58   #22
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I believe it is in UK!

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Unbraked trailers by law in the uk regardless of size must have a safety chain fitted to keep it in line should the trailer become detached from the tow vehicle.

Braked trailers must have a Brake away cable fitted to the braking system to allow the trailer brakes to be applied should it become uncoupled or detached when moving .

don't think the cable needs to be strong enough to keep the trailer in line with the tow vehicle as with the unbraked trailers Just as long as it applies the brakes it can snap.
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Old 30 August 2012, 21:02   #23
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Unbraked trailers by law in the uk regardless of size must have a safety chain fitted to keep it in line should the trailer become detached from the tow vehicle.

Braked trailers must have a Brake away cable fitted to allow the trailer brakes to be applied should it become uncoupled when moving .
that what I thought , I know many folk don't - I have chain on my unbraked and I was glad when it popped off going up a hill! Bent shackle but could been worse!

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Old 31 August 2012, 03:39   #24
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At least they hadn't screwed deck fittings through the hull and into the bunks though, eh Mollers!
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Old 31 August 2012, 04:02   #25
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I also have a second winch safety rope (About a foot of 12mm 3 strand spliced to a snap hook at one end and the winch post at the other) which prevents accidental winch runout - once the winch handle starts rotating and the boat is slipping back on the trailer there is little you can do without something like this (don't ask how I know, but the winch safety gets used for every launch and recovery now!).
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Old 31 August 2012, 04:24   #26
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Unbraked trailers by law in the uk regardless of size must have a safety chain fitted to keep it in line should the trailer become detached from the tow vehicle.

Braked trailers must have a Brake away cable fitted to the braking system to allow the trailer brakes to be applied should it become uncoupled or detached when moving .

don't think the cable needs to be strong enough to keep the trailer in line with the tow vehicle as with the unbraked trailers Just as long as it applies the brakes it can snap.
All very true but i think you've missed the point!
The chain there talking about it usually fixed from your winch post to the bow eye.
This way if the winch fails your boat won’t just roll off the back of the trailer on the slipway.
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I'm not too sure that a safety chain from the winch to bow eye is such a good idea as it's difficult to tension. The idea is to take the strain off of the winch and providing a secondary safety device. Much better to get a ratchet strap and use that.
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After having webbing straps fail on me in the past, I now have a 10mm Dyneema (Kevlar) rope, spliced onto a stainless 3/4 tonne hook. I have a safety chain fastened to the trailer which goes to the bow eye. The winch is braked so I can control the boat once it starts rolling off. The winch handle is removable to stop broken arms & smashed teeth if it all goes tits up. Here's the drill:-
Reverse to bottom of slip (in low box)
Take weight off safety chain with winch & remove safety chain.
Remove winch handle
Give boat a shove & control descent using winch brake.
Recovery is a reversal, I always make sure the safety chain is attached to the eye before pulling up the slip.

Once the boat is off the slip, it's secured to the trailer with 3 ratchet straps, 2 at the stern through the towing eyes & 1 at the bow through the bow eye. The safety chain & winch strap play no part in holding the boat down. If all the straps failed or some numpty forgot to put them onthe safety chain would allow the boat to roll about 50mm back off the trailer & then stop it.
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Old 31 August 2012, 05:25   #29
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I have a "triangle" of backup - two wires and the drawbar. A big chunky wire back to the frame that is taught when winched fully home. The other (admiteddly smaller) wire heads forwards to the winch post, and is arranged such that it is slack enough to get the shackle onto the bow eye about 1.5" ahead of "home".

Theory is that there's a heap of energy will need restrained should I have a head on shunt at speed (e.g numptie doing the "oh, he''s got a trailer so will be doing 20MPH so I can pull out in front of him" scenario).

The "slip catch" (forward wire that will be slack most of the time) is there for exactly that - to stop it rolling off the back if the winch strap snaps. 6" of movement won't be a problem on a slip, and there are also two ratchet straps at the stern to stop it rolling back when on the road.
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Old 31 August 2012, 07:01   #30
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[SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]All very true but i think you've missed the e trailer on the slipway.
Not missed the point at all just clarifiying with SPR,s earlier post about the legal aspect ,
think after running a club and public having use of the slipway for the last 30 years i know a little about boat/ trailer and winching accidents ,
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