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Old 03 August 2004, 19:16   #111
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Just finished on the phone with Kevin, they have had a good night and he is looking forward to getting home, this isn't the end, just a different begining.

We are looking forward to their return tomorrow.

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Old 03 August 2004, 19:35   #112
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lives at risk

lives where put at risk in this venture, the 4 crew. they knew what they where attempting and the risks involved. Thankfully no lives where lost.
The rescue crews may well have done the job they are paid for.They also volunteered for that particular job within the services. Helicopters, on this type of mission are very much in a high risk area and if it hadn't been for the RN vessel in the area, then a rescue such as this one, perhaps would not have happened. Helicopters on a round trip of 400 miles are at the limit of their range. So well done to all concerned.
To Alan P. I am glad that you and the 3 lads are OK and you will be back with us all very soon. I look forward to your storey in the RIB magazine soon.
Safety of Life at Sea, SOLAS, is the one responsibility we all have to one another. If you are not a member of the RNLI, then join, even when they do not operate so far from shore. One day, you may be very glad of their presence. Bet you all, Alan is already planning his new boat and new challenge.
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Old 03 August 2004, 19:38   #113
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Well said.

It was nice to meet you in Bangor at the weekend.

Good of you to come over to Alan and crew to wish them well despite a hectic RIBraid schedule.

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who are you ?

I use my name, why don,t you all? who am I talking too?
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Just pause for a minute and consider the scale of the rescue operation....

As I understand it, there was a Nimrod did a recce? Coastguard helicopter despached beyond its operating range, and renezvous with a RN supply ship to refuel at sea. All co-ordinated between the Coastguard, RAF and RN.

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Old 03 August 2004, 19:50   #116
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I guess you must be new

Kathleen and Paul...we came up to Bangor with Gavin .

I went round Ireland with Fiona.

I noticed you coming up to wish Alan well before he left for the boat.

(It's OK to call me Missus too. )
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What a night!

Hi everyone. I was just talking to Dad (Eg Walters) via phone from Scotland and he appears to be doing well. He recounted the harrowing events from last night and I got goose-bumps on my arms!

On behalf of our family, I'd like to thank everyone for their support and encouragement.

Cheers to the "Spirit" crew and their ability to work as a team to make it through the ordeal.

Dad, a cat only has 9 lives - I think you have used up most of yours!

What can you say to the rescue teams who risked their lives to save them??? Thanks just doesn't cut it. They are an AMAZING bunch of individuals!
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Sounds like an epic tale. Its good to hear they all made it out alive and well. I hope to hear more details as time goes on.
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Please do not take this the wrong way, but the true heroes IMHO are the pilots and crew of the aircraft and ship that went to help, especially the helicopter which was operating at its limits. Perhaps we should spare a thought for the bravery of the crew and their partners and children who waited anxiously for their return.

I don't want to spoil the fact that the crew of the RIB acted bravely and professionaly, but one does wonder whether it is right to do such trips where others lives are put in danger. The cost in monetory terms and others lives put at risk over the last few weeks including Ireland by the RIB HAS to be questioned, someone will have to pay for it, and it will make any money raised look very small indeed. I do think a collection should be made for the rescue crews, they are the ones that should be getting medals!

I am sure that such trips would be different without the aid of beacons and satellite phones, and without doubt these DID save lives, it is very easy to rely on these devices, but had they been unusable things could have been very different. This was a very lucky escape, and happily so for all of us and those concerned.

Perhaps now enough is enough, nothing is worth unnecessarily risking others lives for. If challenges do go ahead then perhaps they should have a full backup crew of volunteers who will carry out any rescue.

It would be nice to see some public thanks to the rescue crews rather than :-

- "It will teach us - we'll learn something from it," he said, promising to be back in the water soon. -

I saw no mention of any thanks at all for the rescue in any reports, but perhaps that was edited out by the media.

Just my personal views on it all, so happy everyone ended up safe.

Here we go this should rattle a few cages !Glad to know the boys are now safe and I HOPE planning their next trip .
Without people like them who are prepared to take caculated risk we would all be the poorer , Everest would still be unclimbed. Both Poles would not have been visited sound barrier still unbroken etc etc .
As to the costs, well what do you think those ships and helicopters would have been doing ,they would have used the same fuel the next day on training sorties routine flights and general messing around ,give them all the fuel they want and let them train as much as they need .The fuel costs next to nothing if you have no taxes on it theres plenty around , the news last night said there was tons of it left well past 2030. We could do without all these nanny state minders telling us how to run our lives.
The rescue services do it because it is their job! they love it and and would not volunteer if they did not .
Go on guys do another one soon !!
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The crew are safe, the rib is lost and the helicopter crew did another magnificent job.
To quote the guy Eg was relating to “it is what we do” just like the lifeboat crews, ambulance crews and bomb disposal men from the army and police. My point is, if we all keep our ribs on the boat park and only venture out if the sea is calm and we have no wind then is unlikely we will need to put the lifeboat men in danger, or maybe we should start to cook all our meals in the great outdoors to save the life of a fireman. We are involved in a potentially dangerous sport and the men and women who come to our aid do it because they want to do it, after all how many lifeboat crews race yachts in their spare time or how many RAF pilots fly smaller and less well equipped aircraft just for fun and then look at the Red Arrows, I cannot think of a more dangerous pastime than that (the pilots are all volunteers) so Allan,Eg.Paul and Steve, DO IT AGAIN SOON and show the rest of us up. The Wright Brothers took stupid risks so we can holiday in Spain You are helping to develop the ribs we enjoy driving (but only in the calmest of weathers)


Paul, I did say at the Beresford that I never posted, but a couple of quotes got me wound up.

Take care and Kathleen thanks for keeping us all up to date.

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