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Old 03 August 2004, 15:34   #91
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Sure will B. This really hammers it home for me that no boat's invincible and anyone can be in trouble.


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Old 03 August 2004, 15:37   #92
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i am sure alan and his crew have said a big thanks to all that took part
in his rescue

as for not going on such a trip as not to put other life in danger is a bit strong

i hope alan get a new boat and gets back out and takes on the sea again
soon

just think sunday lots of sub 5m ribs are going around the IOW which is a big
challenge for us. for alan thats a walk in the park for us its a big deal
all of us like to push ourself a bit from time to time

just glad to see all ended well with all being safe

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Old 03 August 2004, 15:59   #93
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Dan, I have no problems with people wanting to push limits, but when it involves putting others lives at risk for their personal gain or whatever, then I am sorry but I don't think that is what the rescue crews are there for, although as professionals they would never say no. They are there for the everyday stuff, accidents, unforseen incidents e.t.c. NOT people who are deliberately pushing limits, because that is frought with danger, otherwise it would not be worth doing.

All I am saying is, if you want to go to extremes (beyond what normal people would do), then take the appropriate measures e.g have a backup rescue team, or insure yourself in some way to pay for any such rescue by people on standby that may be required. Not drag some poor unsuspecting buggers out of bed at a moments notice and send them in a chopper 200 miles out to sea. Why on earth should others have to risk their lives because someone wants to prove a point, sensless and could be construed as selfish if you ask me.

I agree it is good to push boundaries, and exciting, but not drag some other people into your danger that you have deliberately caused (deliberate, because you know it is dangerous, otherwise it would not be a challenge would it?)

With your trip round the IOW, I would hope that you have safety boats on standby, or people to assist, although it is not quite the same as heading off into oblivion Good luck with that anyway, sounds fun.
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Old 03 August 2004, 16:14   #94
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No one goes to sea with the intention of this happening, they are not out there pushing limits irresponsibly, the boat was on a delivery to Newfoundland extremely well equipped, more than one sat phone on board,to its new home, the same vessel as we know has done this before, HM Coastguard as with Irish Coastguard are paid staff, they are not dragged out of their beds in the middle of the night, its a job that they have chosen to do, and are on shift waiting and monitering situations as part of their normal work.With respect, no one intends this to happen, the crew of Spirit pay for this already with their tax contributions everyday of their life.Rescue services are there for rendering help ,it might not be ideal, we should be coming out in support of the crew as so many have, you can be sure that they personally thanked the coastguard for their assistance, we are not talking about the RNLI here, these men are paid for their work.We all have choices we can make,adventure is in all of us I take my hat of to the crew of Spirit.
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Not really a time or thread to get on your high horse, me thinks!

Save it for another time.....

Lets just thank our luck stars that everyones all right.

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Sorry Gavin, I may have misread this first post, It didn't read as a delivery, apologies, I thought it was a challenge :-

Take four stupid men and the best RIB in the World

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Take four incredibly stupid men and the best RIB in the World and what do you get? Another Trans Atlantic Crossing but this time the other way across.

Ageing Youth, Paul Webb, Egbert Walters and myself will be setting sail from Ireland on Sunday night for a East West crossing of the North Atlantic.
This has never been done before by powerboat and promises to be an interesting trip against the wind and tides. From Bangor NI, we make a 700 mile passage North to somewhere in Iceland (Sorry Bogi, dont know if we will be visiting you this time) Another 720 mile run across to Greenland where I intend to climb a mountain and then the 800 miles South to Newfoundland and all (hopefully) before next Sunday!

Kathleen will be unpadting the RIBNET site daily on our behalf so stay tuned.

So, to say again just incase someone in yeras to come prints that they are the FIRSTto do this. If we live through this one we will be the first! Alan P
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as for the IOW lots of big ribs have got smaller over night to fit into the sub 5m class so they can join us on our big day out


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Anyway, safe boating, and lets hope some good has come out of this, it could save even more lives in the future.
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Old 03 August 2004, 17:18   #100
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Beautifully put Gavin.

Lots of people who go boating push boundaries.(I have to admit we go boating for selfish reasons ourselves.) Every trip has an element of risk and worry. Rescues and assistance are a frequent occurrence in the Solent (our ribbin ground....) Sometimes we have with others been able to assist in a difficulty or crisis in such a way as to avert the call to emergency services.

PeteB there are many ways of supporting the services including donating. Gavin may be too humble to admit this but he does a lot in a voluntary capacity to support Dublin Coastguard. He may be able to suggest practical ways for you to get involved in such a project yourself if you send him a pm.

I have been chatting to the rescuees and will post directly for those of you reading this thread.

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