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Old 29 June 2005, 17:15   #11
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Our mother ship was bob the bucket and terry the thermos...


I also agree with all the thankyou comments directed at the Marshalls, it's a long day to be out there doing what is boring for a long period of time, so thankyou to everyone for giving up your time so that people like me could be out there to watch it.

We had no trouble with marshalls (apart from the nearest ones making themselves decidedly scarce as we rescued a saily yacht with anchor rope/rudder/prop related problems) and I think they did a fantastic job of keeping people where they were supposed to be, probably in the face of much opposition.

Louise, we saw you as we came out of Portsmouth 1100ish, but you were looking the other way and have never met me so I didn't wave!
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Louise, we saw you as we came out of Portsmouth 1100ish, but you were looking the other way and have never met me so I didn't wave!
Sorry Jimbo! Next time!
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we rescued a saily yacht with anchor rope/rudder/prop related problems)
Was that the one at the lightship when we stoped there and you had a quick chat with pete 7 or Ozz ??

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I couldn't agree more regarding Raven control, it was a real education listening to them on the VHF. I thought the ladies were a model of clarity & brevity. Richard was a bit more informal but I loved the way he spoke to the boaters who refused to take instructions from marshalls. So much more polite than I would have been!
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I had a good day yesterday. Fireworks were brilliant - quite a sight all those anchor lights too.

RussellH I think I met the same marshall boat, got told off for doing 9kts in an effort to stay on top of (rather than in) the rather large wake from the binliners travelling at 5kts.

Also saw a marshal boat put themselves very dangerously in front of a RIB travelling at speed in an attempt to stop them - could have ended badly.
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We had no trouble with marshalls (apart from the nearest ones making themselves decidedly scarce as we rescued a saily yacht with anchor rope/rudder/prop related problems)
Jim, please be aware that dealing with incidents such as this were outside the scope of the marshalls. Attending incidents like this would have diverted us from dealing with our primary responsibilities which were the security of the Naval Fleet and the logistics of organising the spectators. This isn't just my personal opinion, it was our instruction.
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I think they did a fantastic job of keeping people where they were supposed to be, probably in the face of much opposition.
Thank you for your positive comments, and for similar comments from others - I'm sure they will be much appreciated by all. There wasn't a great deal of opposition during the day - the vast majority of spectators were extremely responsible, and those who needed advice were gracious and courteous. The minority was an interesting study of human nature!
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I think I met the same marshall boat, got told off for doing 9kts in an effort to stay on top of (rather than in) the rather large wake from the binliners travelling at 5kts.
I wouldn't want anyone to think I was disparaging of the efforts of the vast majority of volunteer marshalls, or (as been rightly pointed out) the radio controllers. Ch 11 was never so interesting & we had a great day out, albeit 24 hours earlier than most.

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Just echoing all comments about Raven Control who were fabulous and also thanks to Mothership 24, Pompey Lil who's 'heads' were compact but welcome!, (Thanks to skipper, Mike)

Being stationed in the N/W corner of Gold Area, much of the traffic we dealt with were people who had failed to take note of the small boat channel extension and intended to travel east.... The majority took instruction OK... but there were several who wanted to argue the toss!... and of course the aforementioned pair of jet-skiers on Monday who were just unbelievable!.... Though I did send a single jet-skier away on Tuesday who was very jolly and no problem!

The other main 'offenders' were probably a few fishermen who, like some truck drivers on the motorway were a rule unto themselves...

But a great couple of days which I'm very glad I was a part of! Pity about the weather though... I chickened out of the fireworks too

Hi to all I met!

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Dunno what you were listening to, but certainly wasn't us - we didn't use 11 for any sector!
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I would happily accept that the instructions given may not have always seemed logical or appropriate to either marshalls or the sheep being marshalled. But were given unambiguous instructions regarding where the line was, how it was to be held, and the speed to be maintained while on passage - for both the Monday and the Tuesday. It was not a case of having a wide latitude to interpret the rules.

A RIB going at 9 knots, or crossing the corner, while safe in and of itself, encourages Fairlines to go at 12 knots, follow the same course, and then the Sunseeker cuts in further, goes faster, and before you know it 15 knots is acceptable and the line has moved 200 metres.

And if the RYA Marshalls did not act, the Police were quick to move in, or the Marines.

I suspect we were all being watched very closely, and any unidentified trace moving at above 8 knots took up the time of a radar operator... think how many such traces there were.....

Ultimately, the worry was safety in the widest sense. I saw a large number of marshalls behavinig brilliantly, and sometimes pursuit and interception and delivery of a bollicking was the only answer - and it was not without risk.

But if everyone had been totally responsible and obeyed the Notice to Mariners about the marshalls, the lines and the wash, we would have had nothing to do....
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