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Old 10 September 2015, 03:21   #21
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As it is almost a ribnet tradition to promote your own particular brand above all else I feel duty bound to suggest looking at a rotomolded rigid buoyant boat rather than just ribs. There are pros and cons...
It's ALSO a pretty well trodden path to recommend people/newbie's to Try out LOTS of Boats where it matters....on the water
Obviously,being the most sensible and best course of action,most people on here have done just that.....and made thier choices accordingly
....as a matter of interest,what do you see as the advantages of Rigids (and you're experience of)over RIB's? I thought you were a Dyed in the wool SIB/RIB fan?
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Old 10 September 2015, 04:41   #22
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I was once told that the same designer who designed the Seariders had a hand in the early Ribcrafts. I don't know if this is true or not though!

Certainly the Ribcraft 545 hull looks like a wider version of a Searider 5.4m
I think there's some truth in that, a bloke called George springs to mind.
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Old 10 September 2015, 14:34   #23
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Thanks Poly.
Are they not rather expensive?
I assume they're rather uncomfortable to sit on the solid tubes?
How do they compare weight-wise?
Someone with prices will be able to confirm. Second hand are rare. So possibly seem pricey. Poly is a tight Scotsman. He wouldn't have paid extra for something inferior.

I thought they were cheaper than glass.

Will be heavier and maybe pricier than a SIB. But far more robust.

You won't find many on here who recommend long distance travel sat on tubes.

Plenty of small sailing clubs use small rigid boats based on RIBs... They won't be paying extra either without good reason... ...I expect they buy them for robustness
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Old 10 September 2015, 18:13   #24
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Thanks Poly.
Are they not rather expensive?
I assume they're rather uncomfortable to sit on the solid tubes?
How do they compare weight-wise?
Sorry for slow response... Someone expected me to do some work for a change!

Some brands are more expensive than others. As with all things in life somethings are better designed too. So e.g. the Funyak has "seats" molded into the top of the tubes which are marginally less comfortable than an inflatable, but feel much more secure.

The ride quality should be better than a sib. They are probably about the same weight as a rib (120kg for 4m boat), would absolutely fly with 30hp.

A funyak 3.9m hull is less than 2k. seating, consoles etc will cost extra.
I'm not specifically recommending funyak, they are just an example I know well. But Whaley, Macboats, pioner and others all produce similar offerings.

My suggestion was partly serious and partly in jest. However if its an idea you want to try and can get to central Scotland I'm happy to give you a shot.
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It's ALSO a pretty well trodden path to recommend people/newbie's to Try out LOTS of Boats where it matters....on the water
Obviously,being the most sensible and best course of action,most people on here have done just that.....and made thier choices accordingly
....as a matter of interest,what do you see as the advantages of Rigids (and you're experience of)over RIB's? I thought you were a Dyed in the wool SIB/RIB fan?
Maxi, I'm a fan of robust, reliable, practical, fun boats. The big advantage of poly boats are that they are almost indestructible so I never had to patch a tube or fill gel coat in ten years of incompetent use. Tubes don't degrade. Also no need to antifoul. Possibly price - all the advantages of a rib, at the cost of a top end sib. With the right design more sensible seating and storage than most small ribs or sibs.

Biggest downside is whilst you are robust there is no fenders for anyone else you come alongside. There is a perceived downside that the tubes offer no cushioning in big waves, but I'm not sure it is as key people think.

However I'm just chucking it out as an idea to consider.
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Maxi, I'm a fan of robust, reliable, practical, fun boats. The big advantage of poly boats are that they are almost indestructible so I never had to patch a tube or fill gel coat in ten years of incompetent use. Tubes don't degrade. Also no need to antifoul. Possibly price - all the advantages of a rib, at the cost of a top end sib. With the right design more sensible seating and storage than most small ribs or sibs.

Biggest downside is whilst you are robust there is no fenders for anyone else you come alongside. There is a perceived downside that the tubes offer no cushioning in big waves, but I'm not sure it is as key people think.

However I'm just chucking it out as an idea to consider.
Poly do you really not have to antifoul these boats?
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Poly do you really not have to antifoul these boats?
I keep mine ashore so can't say 100% but that is the claim from manufacturers. Nothing sticks to Hdpe so a pressure wash would seem to be sufficient.
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Cheers Poly, It's given me something else to contemplate.
The fun-yaks don't seem to go big enough for what I want, I'd like around 4m, they seem to stop at around 3.7
The Whaley 435 and 435_R look interesting.

I'd have to see them actually in action through chop and see how they handle but on paper they look pretty good, and fairly light for their size (the 435_R is 196KG).
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Poly do you really not have to antifoul these boats?
For what it's worth, at the MVS in Manchester we have two small rigiflex boats that live on the canal all year. They've been scuffed but nothing major so aren't as smooth as they would be new. The bottoms have gone a bit green but nothing that comes off with a pressure washer and certainly nothing recognisable as a plant or vegetation.
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Cheers Poly, It's given me something else to contemplate.
The fun-yaks don't seem to go big enough for what I want, I'd like around 4m, they seem to stop at around 3.7
The Whaley 435 and 435_R look interesting.

I'd have to see them actually in action through chop and see how they handle but on paper they look pretty good, and fairly light for their size (the 435_R is 196KG).
Funyak do a 390 which is their closest to a rib style at that size. Does 10cm matter? They also do a 450 which in appearance is less riblike, from above Id say it was more dory like, but the hull is totally different so that would be a misleading comparison. There is a guy on this forum with one, based on the other side of the Irish Sea. They also offer a 540, which I have never seen in person, and is obviously targeted at the European rib community, but the pictures of the red version look quite purposeful and workboat like.

Macboats also have stuff on that size range, but IMHO they are a bit pricey by comparison to Whaley and Funyak etc.
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