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Old 19 April 2006, 17:17   #11
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i love it, i just wonder where you get this stuff from sometimes


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This is a useful wee fella. He's designed to the 95th percentile which just means he represents the proportions of 95% of the population. I don't think they took tummies into account.....

I know he looks like a silly toy but he's a genuine design tool. Cut him out and give him a chance. He's about the size of an A4 sheet top to bottom when assembled, which makes him about 1/6th scale.
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He's designed to the 95th percentile which just means he represents the proportions of 95% of the population. I don't think they took tummies into account......
I'm confused - how can one fixed set of dimensions represent a 95th percentile. Surely there needs to be a whole range of paper men - presumably represented by an upper 95% percentile person and a lower 95% percentile person (e.g. a tall skinny guy and a short dumpy guy). Also I would guess the proportions of men and women may differ somewhat, so perhaps we need female versions too?
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I called him a wee fella... could be a wee lassie as far as I know. Anyway, he/she/it works very well. Ergonome is its name.
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95th percentile actually means that 95% of the population are this size or smaller.
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Anyway, he/she/it works very well. Ergonome is its name.
I wasn't doubting that it does. We have used similar hand models / concepts in my dayjob.

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95th percentile actually means that 95% of the population are this size or smaller.
Yes which means it needs to be printed out to the correct scale. Either perfectly to scale for your own height or if you want to fit the majority of people you need to print him so that his full height is scaled to 1862 mm. But you also need to cover the shorter people too (what I call the lower 95th percentile - but it appears in this area people call the 5th percentile) - and since women are generally smaller you need to cover this with a version scaled to 1519 mm. These numbers are for adult americans and from:
http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/pot_anth.html (googled!).

Obviously if you want a 12 year old to be able to sit comfortably at the console you may need to take their size into account too!
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Yes which means it needs to be printed out to the correct scale. ..
Or you can do your drawings using ergonome as the base to work from so that the scale is correctly represented.

Somewhere, I've got a set of drawings using ergonome to design a rib consol but I'm bu**ered if I can find them just now.
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that's a good question and now I remember the Avon Searider 4.7 (Damn I loved that boat) would sometimes catch my fingers between the wheel and the stick.

Also the Seariders console is offset anyway, dunno if yours is so I don't think it matters if the wheel itself is centred on the console

This is a good point, I have driven a couple of RIBs where the wheel was far too close to the throttle levers and could stop you using the wheel properly in certain positions. When you are spacing things, looking at the ergonomics etc... don't forget to measure things out, using you in your biggest thickest neoprene gloves, foulies, drysuit/polar bear etc. That means come winter what worked in the garage will work for you on the water!

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Or you can do your drawings using ergonome as the base to work from so that the scale is correctly represented.

Somewhere, I've got a set of drawings using ergonome to design a rib consol but I'm bu**ered if I can find them just now.
I drew up an ergowotsit for AutoCAD. I produced him/her/it at 1m high so it can easily be scaled to any height. If anyone wants a copy let me know.
They were used to help set up Merlin for The Jackeens, and Slim Tim has/is using them too.
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