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Old 07 September 2005, 03:25   #1
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Stepped hull!

730 extra for the stepped hull on a Revenger 27 & 29. Why should i pay for it and why should i save my money?

Can you help me with this???
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730 extra for the stepped hull on a Revenger 27 & 29. Why should i pay for it and why should i save my money?

Can you help me with this???
Seems cheap to me. I think it would cost you twice that on a Scorpion!

I guess one reason might be faster time to planing and the other would be potentially higher top speed.

Is it worth it? Only you can decide.

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Harder to take sharp turns, you dont get the grip in the water as on a regular V-bottom.
If you can handle the stepped hull its ok but if not its easy to get a throw with the boat in sharp turns, its easier with a stepped hull to get the throw and there is a big risk for throwing the passengers into the water.
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Harder to take sharp turns, you dont get the grip in the water as on a regular V-bottom.
If you can handle the stepped hull its ok but if not its easy to get a throw with the boat in sharp turns, its easier with a stepped hull to get the throw and there is a big risk for throwing the passengers into the water.
Petrov, I hope you're not saying that all stepped hulls are the same, if you would like to experience a different stepped hull, then come to the Southampton boat show and come for a ride in a BananaShark! They will both be there!
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We have tried both stepped and non -stepped 29 from Revenger. We also had aother brand last year non stepped hull. Everything with 2x250 ob. Everybody keep saying that if you want a sharp turn, pick non-stepped hull. The non-stepped hull makes a nice turn, but if pressed too hard, it suddenly grips and throw the boat the other way, emptying the entire boat. The stepped hull slides a little bit, but is much easier to handle and can go much faster through the turns.
The next problem then is that the turns get so sharp that the bracket holding the engine brakes.!!!!!!!!!!
Our 2x250 Suzukis are two weeks old, have never been out of water, but have experienced extreemely sharp turns with 14 people on bord all day, and today they broke. There is no bracket in Europe, exept on the new engines.
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Petrov, I hope you're not saying that all stepped hulls are the same, if you would like to experience a different stepped hull, then come to the Southampton boat show and come for a ride in a BananaShark! They will both be there!
Cookee;

No not at all, as there is stepped hulls there is regulary hulls that behaves differently.
What i am trying to say is that if you have good control you can press a stepped hull very hard in turns but if you are not, it is easier to get a throw than a regulary V-bottom hull.
Its like golfclubs, there is some clubs that is more forgiving but when you can handle the pro clubs the ball will go 30m extra.

PS: Thanks for invitation, unfortunetly i am sailing in the Med than.
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No not at all, as there is stepped hulls there is regulary hulls that behaves differently.
What i am trying to say is that if you have good control you can press a stepped hull very hard in turns but if you are not, it is easier to get a throw than a regulary V-bottom hull.
Look I'm not going to fall out with you over this, life is too short, but you are STILL implying that ALL stepped hulls behave in exactly the same way - ie
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it is easier to get a throw than a regulary V-bottom hull.
and unless you can prove this as being fact I would ask you to retract that statement.

I hope you have a wonderfull time sailing in the Med - at least yachts don't have stepped hulls so you won't get thrown out!
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What I'm trying to say is that I think you are contradicting yourself but you obviously don't think you are so lets just leave it that shall we?
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Maybe its my way of express the words wrong in english so you dont understand what i mean.
But its cool i can leave it.
I understand what you mean and i agree with you as allready mentioned.
I dont doubt that bananasharck is a great boat but maybe a little extreme for what Joakim is searching for, i talk more of the leisure market ribs.

PS: I hope the invitation still stands
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I hope you have a wonderfull time sailing in the Med - at least yachts don't have stepped hulls so you won't get thrown out!
Soprry to be pedantic bus as you are being so

YES they DO!!!!

http://www.aeroyacht.com/NEWS/Articl...Archimedes.htm


go on - say it

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Maybe its my way of express the words wrong in english so you dont understand what i mean.
But its cool i can leave it.
I understand what you mean and i agree with you as allready mentioned.
I dont doubt that bananasharck is a great boat but maybe a little extreme for what Joakim is searching for, i talk more of the leisure market ribs.

PS: I hope the invitation still stands
The invitation is open to all - even Codders!

Not sure what you mean by extreme ............ the production version of our race boat is a 5 seat sports RIB, and if you read next months RIB International you'll see a review! PM me your address and I'll send you a brochure or you can pick one up when you come to the boatshow!

Might have known you'd come up with something Codprawn - do you do any work or just sit in front of the computer all day?
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in general (imho)stepped hull boats demand a little more respect on corners, once heard the comparison to a family car and a racing carl, ike a high powered rear wheel drive sportscar requires more respect and care than a fwd hot hatch but it is a generalisation.. my fwd hothatch bites ya worse on corners than a 300hp rwd monster but its a track car so id expect it!!

obviously many different design factors effect handling on boats, number of steps, depth, number and size of chines and where they end etc.. I am by no means a boat designer, just a lover(boats and the ladies!! ), my single stepped boat will kick if pushed and try to pivot on the step, my mates sr8 renowned for bein flighty scares the crap outa me on corners...
Revengers grip hard in non step hull form, maybe the stepped hull would be more controlable as someone with first hand experience of em explains..

Have you tried speaking to revenger about this, i found them to be very honest as to the advantages of stepped and non stepped boats

Cookee id love a ride on ur boat at sibs if thats ok??
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Might have known you'd come up with something Codprawn - do you do any work or just sit in front of the computer all day?
Unfortunately that IS my work!!! And these days I HATE it - would far rather be doing something else!!! At least Ribnet breaks up the tedium whilst waiting for yet another virus scan or install to finish!!!

Oh I forgot - I do get nice times in work - like seeing the VAT inspector or talking to companies house..............
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Ok! I had a race BMW with 360 hp... that must mean that i should go for the stepped hull
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Ok! I had a race BMW with 360 hp... that must mean that i should go for the stepped hull
sounds ideal logic!
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Cookee id love a ride on ur boat at sibs if thats ok??
Of course you can! It should be bookable through the "Try a boat" stand, it's our first time doing this at the SBS, so I'm not sure of thier system untill we get there!

If you know when you're coming text me the day and time and how many people (and real names!), the day before and I'll try and pre book for you if it's possible - 07836 268747
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thanks cookee ill do that, missed ya at ribex and cpf so it would be ideal..
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