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Old 02 March 2015, 16:27   #1
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Ive posted a running refurb on "the gallery" but thought I would post in here to see if anyone had any ideas on how to solve my stuck steering ram.

Basically ive managed to move it two inches as can be seen from the pics, this was with the grease nipples removed and a can and half of penetrating oil sprayed at regular intervals over Friday - Monday.

To get it moved this far has taken some serious pounding and I feel all ive done is wedge it further into the tilt tube.

Luckily I have a spare Teleflex cable so no issues damaging this one but just need it out!!

One option is to guy another tilt tube and just pull the whole lot but i have no idea where to get one from and really want to avoid throwing a ton of money into a cheap boat.
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Old 02 March 2015, 16:41   #2
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Hot water dude!
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Old 02 March 2015, 17:26   #3
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Cut the end off at the cable with an angle grinder. Remove 3 engine bolts an leave the top one in at the cable side. Be careful not to snap the bracket. GT 85 to begin with then a paper funnel or old coke bottle over the threads at the end with the hole. Pour in ATF fluid and leave for a couple of nights. Then use an adjustable spanner to get it moving. Then once it moves work it round and round till its slack and knock it out with a hammer. It may be an idea to bolt the engine back fully before you begin hitting it to protect the bracket.
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Missed the bit about tilting the engine at an angle.
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Old 02 March 2015, 17:27   #5
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Cut the cable off and beat feck out of it with a drift/ punch, it will then need cleaning out, I would suggest get a piece of rope though it and keep soaking it in oil pull it back and forth until it's cleaned out. I have had them that needed reaming out, not a nice job, but be brutal to start with


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Old 02 March 2015, 18:14   #6
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What did you do to move it two inches? I've always found that hitting it did little but putting the biggest screwdriver you can fit through the hole in your picture I and using that as a lever to rotate it and help distribute the penetrating fluid worked well.
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Put the grease nipples back in and start pumping with all your might. The hydraulic pressure created will be very high forcing the grease into places the penetrating liquid will not go. Penetrating liquid is good to keep using though. You need to work it both directions a couple MM at a time if needed until it is free. Twist it as much as possible too. Every bit of movement will help break it free. Keep pumping grease with every movement too. I've been able to free up a few cables that were completely frozen that way, to where they freed up completely, and were serviceable after.
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No, please don't put the grease nipples in and pump will all your might. I did that as a very young and inexperienced apprentice and the grease nipples popped out and stripped the threads. Slowly slowly catchy monkey. Try greasing once it begins to spin.
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No, please don't put the grease nipples in and pump will all your might. I did that as a very young and inexperienced apprentice and the grease nipples popped out and stripped the threads. Slowly slowly catchy monkey. Try greasing once it begins to spin.
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Don't the grease nipples only lube the tilt pin & not the steering ? I'm pretty sure they will do nothing for the steering shaft
As suggested above cut the cable off close to the threads on the other side & drift it back the other way till you get more movement
Then drift it right through
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