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Old 31 July 2013, 16:37   #1
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SR 5,4 CE Certificate needed

Please excuse my bad English. I come from Germany and English is not the language I often need.
2
months ago I've bought a Avon Searider 5.4 in England.
The previous owner was the British Navy.
The boat was sold by a middleman. Of course he had no papers to the boat.
It was sold to me as 01.1998. For a boat in this age I donít need a CE certifikate in Germany. So the deal was okay for me.
By my restauration works I stumbled over a plaquette with the HIN under tons of antifouling. After research I found out, the boat is much younger.
Production date is 02.2001.
For a boat with this date of building I need a
</SPAN>CE certificate in Germany.
My Question is where can i get this certificate.
Has anyone a tip or a contact adress.
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Old 01 August 2013, 11:14   #2
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Sorry to here Your story. This CE thing makes me mad...but not much to do about it. That's why one cant buy a RIB without CE mark from UK unless it older than june 1998....

You are right, technically you need to aftermark it. Is it worth it, that's another story.

These people can do it in UK http://www.gablemarine.com/ but for sure You have similar firms in Germany, might be cheaper that way. Possible the cost can be several K euros, at least that would be the case here.

Think You have a case against the middle man, if You have a sales contract with the details, you might be able to cancel the sale? Or You can sell the hull locally as a work boat.

Or then you forget about the real HIN ( i did not suggest this ...) and keep it as a 01.1998. The fact remains, the expensive CE marking/ certification will not make You boat any safer.

Good luck!
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Old 01 August 2013, 11:49   #3
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Have you the sales paperwork saying its a 1998 boat? if so well why have a Plate on it ?? if the authorities want paperwork I would use the sales documentation.. However if it were as you say Ex Royal Navy I would doubt that it had a plate!! as would have been sold as a work boat !!!
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Whats the four digit Navy serial number of the boat?
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Old 01 August 2013, 14:37   #5
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Sorry to here Your story. This CE thing makes me mad...but not much to do about it. That's why one cant buy a RIB without CE mark from UK unless it older than june 1998....
Dont worry , i am happy that the boat is younger than told
The condition also is much better than it looks at the first time.

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You are right, technically you need to aftermark it. Is it worth it, that's another story.

These people can do it in UK http://www.gablemarine.com/ but for sure You have similar firms in Germany, might be cheaper that way. Possible the cost can be several K euros, at least that would be the case here.
To expensive. The highest Price i pay for CE is a few hundred euros.

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Think You have a case against the middle man, if You have a sales contract with the details, you might be able to cancel the sale? Or You can sell the hull locally as a work boat.
The middle man becomes no problems with me. He is a nice guy.
The other thing is, the boat has no grey tubes. I have bought it because it has blue tubes. It was a navy police or a police boat. The seller said navy police. I like the blue tubes. Under the antifouling i found a boat in good condition. The other Problems with the boat i have seen before i went to England. But not the HIN

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Or then you forget about the real HIN ( i did not suggest this ...) and keep it as a 01.1998. The fact remains, the expensive CE marking/ certification will not make You boat any safer.

Good luck!
This is plan B. Thank you
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Old 01 August 2013, 14:48   #6
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Have you the sales paperwork saying its a 1998 boat? if so well why have a Plate on it ?? if the authorities want paperwork I would use the sales documentation.. However if it were as you say Ex Royal Navy I would doubt that it had a plate!! as would have been sold as a work boat !!!

I have it.
The seller told me it is an 06 or 07.1998. So the boat on the sales paperwork on my request was written as am 01.1998 (CE Documentation)
But 2.2001 is a little bit younger than 07.1998. So i think it is not bad to have the CE Certificate. At all if i want to sell this boat in future.
It had no CE plate. but i has a HIN.
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Whats the four digit Navy serial number of the boat?
Four Digit???? Where
i have found a 5 Digit number on the Aluminium bar on the transom and a plate with a 6 Digit code inside the boat on the transom.
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It's not navy if it's ex police, and won't have the 4 digit navy number.

Are the 2 sets of numbers you have the same apart from one digit? It might be a retube that's had a serial number stuck to it.
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It's not navy if it's ex police, and won't have the 4 digit navy number.

Are the 2 sets of numbers you have the same apart from one digit? It might be a retube that's had a serial number stuck to it.
No, the two numbers are different. The tubes look like 10 to 15 jears strong use. The hull was antifouled and had barnacles in the flooding hull.
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Do they both say different years?
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