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Old 25 April 2005, 04:09   #11
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It depends on what the public want and expect for their money interesting and well thought out thread.I shall keep my eye on this one as am keen to see how it develops.
I think the boating mags do a lot in this area also Tim.

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SCM aka Lynx Charters is organising something like this , he had some positive feed back from the RYA and rib manufacturers ,re paying for an organised day on the water he also had some negative comments from this forum . It depends on what the public want and expect for their money interesting and well thought out thread.I shall keep my eye on this one as am keen to see how it develops.
In my experience, the Ribbing public want the world but dont want to pay for it. Which always seemed a trifle odd to me given that its an expensive hobby (buying the boat, putting fuel in it) so folk that do it by default tend not to be absolutely poverty stricken!
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For several years now I have organised cruises for BIBOA. For 6 years I have organised and lead the two-day South-West Cruise out of Plymouth and for 3 years the three-day Scilly Islands Cruise. In addition I have organised trips round the UK, to S/W Ireland, to the Channel Islands and to France.

The area I know best is probably the southern coasts of Devon and Cornwall.

I am retired, have loads of free time on my hands. Without requiring any form of reward, I would happily, and at the drop of a Sou’Wester, jump aboard anyones boat and be pleased to show them around “my” area.
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Old 25 April 2005, 05:13   #14
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Thanks Brian!

And we're happy to help anyone in the Solent (or we may know someone else who can!)

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What a pity that people have to be so litigation conscious these days.

What we really need is a true "no fault" insurance which I believe is in existance or has been tried in other jurisdictions.

But insurers ,even if they pay out will try to recover from a third party;

The "I am going to x -see you there if you want" is pretty safe although as Louise has said there will always be one to try and rock the boat!

Anyway, I would be happy to act as unpaid guide on the Essex and Suffolk coast.
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Old 25 April 2005, 08:04   #16
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Another example of brilliant small group cruising is the RIB Expedition Club (the original RIBEX) run by Chris Kaye. This meets once a year at the Cafe du Port in St Vaast and Chris basicly announces the date and invites people to join him for dinner. He normally passes on a bit of information about when the tidal gates to the harbour will be open, and may give his proposed waypoints for the journey from Poole, but other than that it's pretty much up to each person to make their own arrangements. Some join him en route, others make up their own small groups, and occasionally everyone converges a few miles from St Vaast as if by magic!
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And we are very much looking forward to Littlehampton (Andre and Phil & co.) where we are happy to be responsible for ourselves but look out for others in the best spirit of boating and RIBnet !

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A well thought out post.

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There may, in fact, be quite a market for this sort of event but I think it's something that needs to be done professionally
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Whilst many people here may be appalled at the idea of paying to go on a RIB cruise,
I can understand people on here saying that.

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others might like the reassurance that could be offered in a full package if anyone wants to start a specialist tour operation.
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£30ish (IIRC) is a lot of money to pay for a single day's events, especially given that SCM was a little sketchy (IMHO) regarding what would be on offer.
I agree there was not much detail, not meant to be it was the concept/principal that i interested in.

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In my experience, the Ribbing public want the world but dont want to pay for it. Which always seemed a trifle odd to me given that its an expensive hobby (buying the boat, putting fuel in it) so folk that do it by default tend not to be absolutely poverty stricken!
So is £30 really that much for an orginised day on the water Of course there are those that will grumble about that but then there are a lot more that would happly pay for the day out. (I hope )

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So is £30 really that much for an orginised day on the water
I suspect that it may need to be rather more than this to make it worthwhile.

£30 doesn't buy a lot of organising and personal attention, so you'll need to get a largish turnout to make it worthwhile. Having paid any entry fee people will expect the moon on a stick. The difficult ones will want more . . .

At this price you run the risk of people grudgingly paying, and then feeling that you haven't really given them anything that they couldn't have done for themselves, for nothing.

At, say, £100 per boat with a limit of six boats you could really put together a day that would be useful in terms of experience and knowledge gained. Lots of people would be horrified and you would probably be accused of profiteering, but for the right people it would be a bargain.

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At, say, £100 .......Lots of people would be horrified and you would probably be accused of profiteering, ....
Too right!

You obvioiusly earn more money per hour that I ever did.

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What we really need is a true "no fault" insurance which I believe is in existance or has been tried in other jurisdictions.
I understand that New Zealand is the only country that has 'No fault' insurance, at least for cars.
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