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Old 29 August 2002, 15:57   #21
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Mark did you get a quantity discount on the rollers
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Old 03 September 2002, 15:26   #22
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My experience (twice) has thus far been painless. Launching is a breeze provided I remember to attach a long line to bow and stern before letting go on the winch. Getting out of the water is a bit harder on an almost horizontal slip with single axle trailer wheels sitting in 3 ins. of water on ledge about 2 feet from a drop into about 900 mm of water. Line bow up on rollers, trim engine out and while one man winches, drive the boat up onto the trailer to a point where it falls onto the rest of the rollers. Because the boat is quite heavy, and the angle between the bow U bolt and the winch is too acute, I put a line from the U bolts in the transom to the winch, and pull it the last few feet with a bit of shove from the engine while it's still in the water. Only problem is if the tow car is light ( Fiesta) the initial shove can slew the car around the trailer. All very exciting and necessary, because i'm too tight to pay the 15 to have it lifted out with a Hiab. I reckon with practice I could do this alone, but prefer having someone else around that I can shout at!
6 metre boat about 750kg with fuel and bits and bobs + 175 kg outboard on a very basic unbraked trailer not quite big enough for the boat in question.
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Old 03 September 2002, 15:36   #23
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John,

I hope you don't tow your rig too far as with those weights you are well above the legal maximum for an unbraked trailer (750kg)
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Old 03 September 2002, 17:00   #24
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My boats on a single axle trailer with no brakes too, but when i did some research i decided is was OK.

Yam 130 = 167Kg (Yam web site)
BWM 18 = 350Kg (Some web site i found)
100li fuel = 100Kg (Approx)

This leaves over 100Kg for the trailer - which seams realistic?

Any comments invited - i don't like to be 'too' illegal!
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trailers and weight

Just a boring point ythast could save you a lot of money and points .

to tow a trailer which is rated for 720kg and above you must have passed a test b4 1/197 or taken the trailer test . This applies even if you are tiowing and empty trailer !
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This idea is not out of experience but a thought experiment.

Rather than a bit of rope to extend the trailer - car hitch to deal with shallow incline slips what about a rigid bar? a bit of steering then could assist and you wont corrode the car to peices in a few seasons.

just a thought.....
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I'dve thought you'd be well over 750kgs!! BWMs are quite heavily built (well some of em) and your numbers make no allowance for kit - ropes, fenders, etc. More fundamentally I would think your trailer is more than 100kg. I would go check your rig out on a public weighbridge, you might get a nasty shock!

I knew someone with a BWM 18 / 115hp Johnson and he used a braked trailer. I used to have a BWM 21 and reckoned that it was about 1300 kg all up including trailer, 40 gals fuel etc.

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Rather than a bit of rope to extend the trailer - car hitch to deal with shallow incline slips what about a rigid bar? a bit of steering then could assist and you wont corrode the car to peices in a few seasons.
This has indeed been done, and can work well (although you are obviously limited by the length of the bar, which is likely to be shorter than a rope)

It also takes a reasonable amount of preparation! With a small RIB you may have problems stowing the bar, but for larger boats it is relatively easy to find a way of mounting it onto the trailer chassis. I'm pretty sure that Chris Strickland used this arrangement for launching Seahound -- his Scorpion cabin RIB.

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Old 07 September 2002, 09:27   #29
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UNBRAKED O/W TRAILER
Just for the record, the boat I have is in Menorca, and the distance driven is one mile to a proper slip, rather than launch off the beach. The police are pretty relaxed about such things anyway, provided you have a trailer board.
I suggested to a pal out there that I might bring it home in the winter to play with and his first comment was 'not on that trailer you won't'. He runs a fleet of rescue boats attached to a sailing hol. co. and is the guru we all need from time to time, including suggesting that perhaps I should strap the RIB to the trailer before driving off to the launch slip for the first time!!
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Menorca WOW !!!

we were in menorca last year at a beach on the north called arenal den castell, wish I could have taken my boat with me, absolute paradise to have the luxury of a rib in such blue water, where is yours based ?
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