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Old 12 November 2004, 03:07   #1
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Size of the UK RIB Market

{Trying again - last thread went in one rather focussed direction......}

1 .How big is the UK market for recreational RIBs?

i.e. How many non commercial (ie exclude lifeboats, oil industry, police, military, other industrial, training schools, salinig schools etc) ribs are sold each year?

2. How is that non commercial market broken down?

2. (a) By size? Are 6.5M the most popular? Or is that urban myth?

2. (b) By manufacturers? Who are the big boys in the non-commercial markets?

3. Is the annual new market expanding?

4. Who is increasing market their market share?
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I'm not sure that the information has ever been collected in a meaningful form. You could try the British Marine Federation and see if they have any figures, or perhaps you could commission a market survey!

It would certainly be interesting to know the answers.

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very limited data from BMF. Lots of RIBbers do not do SSR or CG66. Manufactuters do not tend to submit timely (any!) returns
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In theory Rib Internationl should have an idea odf the size of the market!

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Good questions, if you find the answers do let me know.
What you have to remember is that the majority of the UK marine industry (excepting the super yacht builders) are small concerns in the grand scheme of things. To put it in perspective, I was chatting to a rep for a well known outboard manufacturer who also make cars and sponsor boat shows, hard one to guess I know! The complete marine sales for the UK turn over less than a single car dealership, gives you some idea of scale of things.

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That has probably got a hell of a lot to do with our weather!!! The Med, Florida and the Carribean are not boating hotspots for nothing!!!
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............The complete marine sales for the UK turn over less than a single car dealership, gives you some idea of scale of things.....
This only shows that the company you are speaking of has poor market share it doesn't show that the market is small.

The total revenues for the UK boating industry, including the value of exports, was £1,838 million for 2003 (source: BMF 2004 data)

When i asked about the size of the UK market in 2003 the BMF said:-

Number of rigid inflatable boats (over 2.5m and 20kg) produced in UK, 2003
2.5-7.5m_________7.5-12m
5,800______________200

Which really isn't helpful having said that it is remarkable how few +7,5m boat were made.

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This only shows that the company you are speaking of has poor market share it doesn't show that the market is small.
True, unless they have really busy car dealerships

I suppose what Iím getting at is there are a few small companies building Ribís and even more people selling them.
To get a true reading of who does what and where must be nearly impossible in a relatively small market. The official figures are also voluntary submitted by BMF members.
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To get a true reading of who does what and where must be nearly impossible in a relatively small market. The official figures are also voluntary submitted by BMF members.
go on then jace - start the ball rollin - how much are you makin???
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OK. Here is an inspired guess, plus working as I was taught to do at school.

There are 18 names advertising ribs for sale in latest RIB international:

I guess the following for each - non commercial sales - in the past 12 months - in the 5m-8m bracket in the UK:

Humber 50
Mako 20
Scanner 5
Rayglass 5
Revenger 20
Ribeye 20
Delta 10
Coastline 10
Scorpion 20
Pascoe 20
Ribcraft 40
Osprey 15
Redbay 15
Rib-X 20
Solent 20
Picton 10
Parker 20
Ribquest 20

Others - XS 20
Zodiac / Bombardier 20

Say 400 in total.

OK. so tell me I am wrong????
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