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Old 16 August 2006, 05:28   #21
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Milo thanks for the encouragement. You make it all sound so easy. At least the advantage of winter is that there is not a large audience and usually no one looking too inpatient!

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Old 16 August 2006, 05:52   #22
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Originally Posted by Milo72
[ps. I find, if you look like you know what you're doing, people will believe you do! so if it does go t!ts up, you can often get away with it!]
A very sound principle

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Old 16 August 2006, 06:07   #23
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Although I don't have guide poles, I retrieve the boat off neyland slipway which, on a good spring has 3 or 4 knots of current passing at 90 degrees to the slip.... when this is added to by a strong wind from the other direction, it does make things more interesting with a 2ft+ wave height, but as yet there are no scratches on the boat.

After plenty of practice of different methods in calm areas - 9 times out of 10 now I do the launch and recovery all myself, even with friends / family about to help, I find it easier to use the tried and tested routine each time. I let out enough winch line to go 2/3 of the way down the trailer and then lock it off. The trailer is then put into the water so the first rear rollers are just beneath the water (when rough it's a bit harder to judge), and the front rear rollers are just above. Yes, it can take a few attempts in the cross current and chop before getting it right (this I suppose is where the guide poles would come in nice) but once the bow is in the rollers, it won't be drifting sideways anymore. If the stern is out of true, use the engine in idle to swing it round, once straight, I leave the engine ticking over ahead, reach over the bow and hook up the winch line. If the boat is still holding solid, I then run up the trailer and take any slack before going back to the boat to stop/lift the engine. When I first had the boat, I would drive the boat up the trailer to the top, but with a constant chop of water, you invariably end up picking up stones and dinking the prop at some point so I don't do that anymore.

I did a recovery with woot a couple of years ago in similar conditions, and even with 4 of us, we ended up pulling muscles everywhere since we were trying to handle the boat onto the trailer manually in rough weather. Provided you are happy with your control of the boat and confident that your engine can go from ahead to reverse without stalling, I'd always now use the engine to get the boat into the right place. You don't need to use any power, but if required, you know that there is the power there to back you off.

I don't think I could do a retrieval from the sea with my boat most of the time here given the swell we sometimes get - the thing would just get smashed on the trailer.... if anything, I'd probably beach on a dropping tide and then winch the boat onto the trailer when it was dry.
An ideal setup would be like what the RNLI have with a nice tractor and trailer with massive guidepoles around it

I'm sure there are rights and wrongs for boat recovery, and my way is probably bad, but for 3 years, it's worked fine for me and the gelcoat is still the same as it was when it left the factory

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Old 16 August 2006, 06:27   #24
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Just a point which is probably bloody obvious to everyone. If you are using a rope to recover the trailer (because the slipway is slippy, or too shallow, or car doesn't like hills etc... ) then you can't "drive" the boat onto the trailer (well not with an unbraked trailer at least).
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Old 16 August 2006, 11:52   #25
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No chance - 9m is a bit big for 1 person but as

Come off it Codders- where is your sense of adventure... got any balls left??
I do mine all the time single handed.... the secret is to do it very showly....
and to drive the rib hard onto the rollers and as far as possible up to the end.. I always attract a considerable audience of young women .... who are just dying for me to fall in!.

.It is more easy with a big boat than a small one. Basically you need just one pole stuck near the winch - dead center- and with a good turn of speed you can overcome any current and wind. I use a small aluminium ladder as the pole and leave the engines running while attaching the whinch cable.The ladder holds the cable- so all it needs is to go to the bow, take the cable and attach it to the front boat hook- then get out using the ladder and whinch the boat up - so that it is solid on the trailer. Once solid on the trailer, turn the engines off and raise them- then out agin and tow the trailer out.

Admittedly, I am spoilt at Nieuwport as the ramps are ideal,having three available and pretty clean .


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