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Old 03 January 2014, 11:26   #41
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Interesting thread. I've been toying with getting a couple of Geckos for a while, but just can't bring meself around to the idea. Like Biff, I like to hear the sounds of the boat & the sea. I think that part of the fun is having the wind & spray in your hair (or what's left of it) I don't want to be detached from that in an armoured cocoon. We're having the same debate as a family, over skiing helmets, we've noticed that over the last couple of years we've become the minority that don't wear helmets. I think it all comes back to the old "Risk" chestnut & your attitude to it, if the reason you ski/boat etc is to enjoy the thrill & feeling of freedom, then anything that takes the enjoyment away negates the reason for doing it in the first place. Just IMHO of course, each to their own. I've still not made my mind up
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Old 03 January 2014, 11:30   #42
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Skulls are pretty hard, I can imagine you would be sore by face planting your consol, but not dead if you didnt wear a helmet.

Goggles for spray and a helmet to keep warm sounds sensible, but just how your going to crack your skull open does seem quite unlikely. Not impossible, but unlikley.
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Old 03 January 2014, 11:34   #43
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there are plugs you can remove in the Geckos so that you can still hear what's going on, main reason I wear one is to keep the wind n rain out of my eyes, hay fever makes them very sensitive and soar for days after, especially when it's cold. I always feel overdressed when I put mine on, but at the end of a long wet day I've been glad of it over the last couple of seasons

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Interesting thread. I've been toying with getting a couple of Geckos for a while, but just can't bring meself around to the idea. Like Biff, I like to hear the sounds of the boat & the sea. I think that part of the fun is having the wind & spray in your hair (or what's left of it) I don't want to be detached from that in an armoured cocoon. We're having the same debate as a family, over skiing helmets, we've noticed that over the last couple of years we've become the minority that don't wear helmets. I think it all comes back to the old "Risk" chestnut & your attitude to it, if the reason you ski/boat etc is to enjoy the thrill & feeling of freedom, then anything that takes the enjoyment away negates the reason for doing it in the first place. Just IMHO of course, each to their own. I've still not made my mind up
Good observations - one of the minus aspects of the Protector is that the covering canopies / bimini shield the wind and wave effects. Great when it is raining and cold - but a bit like swimming in an indoor pool or wearing a helmet in an open top car.
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Old 03 January 2014, 11:43   #45
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I have a Bimini and a windscreen on my boat so weather isn't an issue, but I do know of a bloke who had a helmet on and didn't notice what was behind him, nearly got run over by a battleship on one of the big rallies in the Solent, had to get over to him fast and throw a few FFFFF"s at him
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Skulls are pretty hard, I can imagine you would be sore by face planting your consol, but not dead if you didnt wear a helmet
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Obviously other factors were the cause of the accidents which could have been preventable and there is no certainty that a helmet would have saved their lives it is quite clear that the solid structures within a powerboat are far from minor risks when they stop your body from rapid deceleration. With 350HP on tap you could quite easily face plant the console just by getting the throttle / waves wrong.

You might argue that the gecko saved this guys life (although he still received very serious injuries).

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We have to race in a helmet and in the current race boat blocking out sound is an advantage! Of course we don't get overtaken very often at speeds approaching 70mph, with the canopy boat we use an open face helmet and full face for open boats - We did use Gecko's in the RIB but they banned those - we found them lighter and more comfortable than road crash helmets that are approved.
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Interesting thread. I've been toying with getting a couple of Geckos for a while, but just can't bring meself around to the idea. Like Biff, I like to hear the sounds of the boat & the sea. I think that part of the fun is having the wind & spray in your hair (or what's left of it) I don't want to be detached from that in an armoured cocoon.
Yea I agree Pikey. Been doing the same thing - looking at Geckos but just not jumping for one yet. (Do they do a try before you buy scheme?? )
I like the idea of being warm and dry but would hate the looks I'd get from the ol' timers on the pier where I launch News of it would be around the area before I got back to the bar!!

BTW Happy New Year everyone (my first post of 2014) and Willk what happened your avatar?
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Interesting thread. I've been toying with getting a couple of Geckos for a while, but just can't bring meself around to the idea. Like Biff, I like to hear the sounds of the boat & the sea. I think that part of the fun is having the wind & spray in your hair (or what's left of it) I don't want to be detached from that in an armoured cocoon. We're having the same debate as a family, over skiing helmets, we've noticed that over the last couple of years we've become the minority that don't wear helmets. I think it all comes back to the old "Risk" chestnut & your attitude to it, if the reason you ski/boat etc is to enjoy the thrill & feeling of freedom, then anything that takes the enjoyment away negates the reason for doing it in the first place. Just IMHO of course, each to their own. I've still not made my mind up
I bought s slight 'second' Gecko off the Ebay shop. LIke Jambo, it seems OK to me. But for a long time I did not use it much, to be honest it was uncomfortable. Then a friend on here pointed out that as well as inflating the bladder, you can also suck air out Er, never thought of that.
Now perfectly comfortable.
On a certain cross channel trip I found the face protection invaluable, to the extent that I would not consider a similar trip again with out it. However, if the conditions did not require it, the Gecko would stay in the locker.
The removable ear plugs - horrible. The wind noise and draught in the ear with them out NO if the Gecko is on, the ear plugs stay in, so my crew will always have to shout
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