View Poll Results: Should there be a legally enforced alcohol limit for leisure boaters?
Yes. Legislation is the way forward. 33 32.04%
Don't mind. I don't drink and boat so it won't affect me. 11 10.68%
No. Things are fine as they are. 59 57.28%
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Old 13 August 2007, 08:19   #31
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Fair comment mugshot, i would never get sloshed and take the helm myself and right we want are waterways to be as safe as possible but when law and legislation is concerned a little needs a lump if yu get what i am saying and thats what concerns me.
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totally i agree, and i don't want to turn this thread into a handbag throwing contest, but people that stand up for more legislation etc etc yank my chain. we should be standing up for more freedom not backing the Nanni state and making excuses for more ridiculous legislation.
Great - so given the scenarios I outlined, I am interested to know what your non nanny state approach would be?
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totally and making excuses for more ridiculous legislation.
So, legislation that could restrict idiots from driving fast craft while pissed is: "ridiculous". very good!

I hate the nanni state more than most, but you're just talking rubbish when it comes to this particular subject. I hope you, or any of your family never fall victim of this sort of thing....It 'may' just change your mind.
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I find it hard to comprehend why anyone who is into boating would want any form of legislation upon us.

The incident that this thread starteed on occured during Cowes Week, the guilty party were clearly incompetent. Planning to take a boat out from Cowes to Mainland at night with no nav lights, lifejackets etc demonstrates that.

In this case they have not harmed anyone else only themselves.

So in summary "If it aint broke dont fix it".
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Old 13 August 2007, 09:23   #35
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The incident that this thread starteed on occured during Cowes Week, the guilty party were clearly incompetent. Planning to take a boat out from Cowes to Mainland at night with no nav lights, lifejackets etc demonstrates that.

In this case they have not harmed anyone else only themselves.

So in summary "If it aint broke dont fix it".

If I took a gun, and fired randomly into a crowd, but failed to hit anyone, would that mean it's ok, and stopping people firing guns into crowds was an unnesasary piece of ridiculous legislation coz it 'quite clearly isn't dangerous, as I tried & got away with it'....no.

Best thing is, you carry on just as you please.

I'm 'staggered' that an rya trainer thinks it's ok to drink drive a boat.
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Old 13 August 2007, 10:51   #36
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In this case they have not harmed anyone else only themselves.

So in summary "If it aint broke dont fix it".
Yes that is all well and good but all of them are brothers, sons, daughters, better halves etc of someone else.

It is not just them that are hurt in this.

I am not one for laws for the sake of it but there seems to be a very strong case for some changes here.

Also a huge amount of this goes unreported so the real facts are never seen.

You don't need to drink to have a good time on the water and if you do my guess is you aint doing it right
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With all due respect the words uneducated twat spring to mind.

I think you will find one of the biggest problems with the "youth of today" is drink followed by drugs and not early on set diabetes

Having lived with diabetes since the age of 14 your comments are bordering offensive.
Having diabetes should not make you a couch spud or mean that you are any less of a human than any other person, as your post would indicate.
I can do most things in life that you or any others may choose.
Most diabetics I know are the same.

The only two things it has ever stopped me doing is joining the police force and learning to fly.
Both of which I could now do if I so choose.

Injecting insulin 4 times a day does not mean I can't live life to the full.
Those that know me know I do!

I would request you put you brain into gear before you put your fingers into motion that way you are unlikely to offend people in the way you have and do.

Am now climbing down off of my soap box.
Hi I am not being offensive just pointing out that childhood obesity is said to reach epidemic levels soon. I am also referring to type two diabetes which is now seen more often in children. Not to be confused with juvenile diabetes and meaning no offense to people with this disorder.

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If I took a gun, and fired randomly into a crowd, but failed to hit anyone, would that mean it's ok, and stopping people firing guns into crowds was an unnesasary piece of ridiculous legislation coz it 'quite clearly isn't dangerous, as I tried & got away with it'....no.

Best thing is, you carry on just as you please.

I'm 'staggered' that an rya trainer thinks it's ok to drink drive a boat.
I think if you read my posts you will find I have never advocated drink driving however, you have also rather dramatically miss quoted me, I never said "quite clearly is not dangerous"

Your example of firing a gun into a crowd is a strange argument against my post but as you suggest carry on as you please.
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but all of them are brothers, sons, daughters, better halves etc of someone else.

It is not just them that are hurt in this.
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You are of course correct, but do we not all have a right to make our own decisions and if we make the wrong decision to pay the consequences.

As an instructor I teach my students all sorts of things, here are a few

Wear a kill chord
Wear a life jacket
Carry safety equipment
Do a SRC course
Dont drink and drive
get a forecast b4 going afloat

All of things are importatnt and can save lives, they all form good practice which you and many other powerboaters follow, however why pick on the alcohol debate, why not pass hundreds of acts telling us exactly how to enjoy ourselves.
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As an instructor I teach my students all sorts of things, here are a few

Wear a kill chord
Wear a life jacket
Carry safety equipment
Do a SRC course
Dont drink and drive
get a forecast b4 going afloat

All of things are importatnt and can save lives, they all form good practice which you and many other powerboaters follow, however why pick on the alcohol debate, why not pass hundreds of acts telling us exactly how to enjoy ourselves.
Because pretty much every other detail you list, if ignored, will in most cases only affect the twat that chooses to ignore your advice. Except maybe the danger the rescue services put them selves to rescue them when it goes wrong. With maybe the only exception being the kill cord.

Bottoms up.
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