View Poll Results: Should there be a legally enforced alcohol limit for leisure boaters?
Yes. Legislation is the way forward. 33 32.04%
Don't mind. I don't drink and boat so it won't affect me. 11 10.68%
No. Things are fine as they are. 59 57.28%
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Old 13 August 2007, 04:28   #11
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I feel the ban or limit on drinking on boats is long over due.

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Oh snore...bring on the nanny state. People killed or injured due to drinking and boating on private vessels per year is absolutely minimal. Of course there should be no ban, or even limit...far too difficult to police for a start. Just leave it as it is.
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Old 13 August 2007, 04:34   #12
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Oh snore...bring on the nanny state. People killed or injured due to drinking and boating on private vessels per year is absolutely minimal. Of course there should be no ban, or even limit...far too difficult to police for a start. Just leave it as it is.
I echo what Tim has said - very wise words
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Old 13 August 2007, 04:42   #13
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Oh snore...bring on the nanny state. People killed or injured due to drinking and boating on private vessels per year is absolutely minimal. Of course there should be no ban, or even limit...far too difficult to police for a start. Just leave it as it is.
That's as maybe, but if you got sloshed, and through your drunkeness, injured me, any of my family, or my boat, I would want your blood, and quite rightly too.

If you can't have a good time on, or off the water without getting pissed, you're a sad little bloke and arguing that it should be your 'legal right', is even sadder.

Grow up.
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Old 13 August 2007, 04:50   #14
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That's as maybe, but if you got sloshed, and through your drunkeness, injured me, any of my family, or my boat, I would want your blood, and quite rightly too.

If you can't have a good time on, or off the water without getting pissed, you're a sad little bloke and arguing that it should be your 'legal right', is even sadder.

Grow up.
I rarely drink, and never when operating craft. That's my choice.

Your post appears to be directed at me personally. Best to know the facts first otherwise you might look like a fool.
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That's as maybe, but if you got sloshed, and through your drunkeness, injured me, any of my family, or my boat, I would want your blood, and quite rightly too.
I totally agree. While people whinge about the nanny state and keep coming out with 'I can do what I want', they rarely think about the potential impact of their behaviour on others.
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I totally agree. While people whinge about the nanny state and keep coming out with 'I can do what I want', they rarely think about the potential impact of their behaviour on others.
Most people do think about their impact thats why the system has worked so well in the past. However well regulated things become you can never regulate an idiot. Take my old business which everyone on Rib.net loves so much. We were prosecuted for not having a licence. The licence was withdrawn because someone soaking up a lot of the tax payers money was trying to do their job and justify their rather bloated government department.

We decided that we had had enough of this red tape bollocks so we set up as a non profit making private members club and despite doing lots of things which as risk assessments would deem as suicidal have never had an injured person.

Diabetes will be one of the biggest problems for the emerging youth of today. So what would we rather have kids pursueing 'the dangerous book for boys' style activities or a bunch of Fat Lard Asses getting kicks from the colouring in a chicken tandori and injecting insulin for their rest of their lives whilst on the playstation!
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Old 13 August 2007, 06:06   #17
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Your post appears to be directed at me personally. Best to know the facts first otherwise you might look like a fool.
I don't know you from adam, but it looks like you should take some of your own advice.

The post was directed at the person who wrote the post, posted in your name, because it's pathetic.
However, my comments are aimed at anyone who has that approach to drink-driving, of any vehicle, regardless of what you/they choose to label it as.

I appear to be living in a country full of drunken chavs with no common sense, so regulation is probably the only way.
Ask David Manning how well behaved the average drinker is when he's scraping them up off the pavement in Wolve.
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Most people do think about their impact thats why the system has worked so well in the past. However well regulated things become you can never regulate an idiot. Take my old business which everyone on Rib.net loves so much. We were prosecuted for not having a licence. The licence was withdrawn because someone soaking up a lot of the tax payers money was trying to do their job and justify their rather bloated government department.

We decided that we had had enough of this red tape bollocks so we set up as a non profit making private members club and despite doing lots of things which as risk assessments would deem as suicidal have never had an injured person.

Diabetes will be one of the biggest problems for the emerging youth of today. So what would we rather have kids pursueing 'the dangerous book for boys' style activities or a bunch of Fat Lard Asses getting kicks from the colouring in a chicken tandori and injecting insulin for their rest of their lives whilst on the playstation!
Rupert - I am with you on the red tape front, mostly it is unnecessary, & I am not in favour of licencing pleasure boat drivers. However, I am in favour of preventing drink/boating, even if regulations only allowed the police to confiscate the keys from the cowes breakwater morons until morning.

I quite like the French approach to some problems, whereby your boat is confiscated if you are caught breaking the law.

You could split the issues & actions down - would appreciate some constructive opinions :

Drink boating, no harm done : open to suggestions here, even keeping it as present?
Drink boating, damage caused to your own boat : as above
Drink boating, damage to others property : pay for damage (a must IMHO), fine/compensation depending on damage/inconvenience caused?
Drink boating, injury to 3rd party : compensation? fine? loss of boat? prison?
Drink boating, 3rd party fatality : compensation? fine? loss of boat? prison?

I appreciate these could apply to negligence and incompetence too - not sure what is currently legislated for right now.
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No ones trying to justify getting sloshed and taking up the helm! but what we realize is government and council intervention is just bullshit that causes malfunction where ever it goes! why change a law that all ready works fine, if it aint broke then don't try and fix it is my motto, the only reason why the government would get involved and undoubtedly furk things up like they always do is for financial gain! do you really believe they give a shit about joe bloggs killing himself on his boat, get a grip and stop sticking up for the enemy. Don't you know that having fun is at the bottom of their list and creating more reasons for tax and controlling everything is very much their priority, people that try and come up with excuse's and reasons for more and more laws are just pro state control muppets that don't like seeing other people have a good time. As i said in an earlier post having a license does not make you any less of a fool or danger to anybody else, just look at our roads does having a license stop idiots from drink driving, speeding or any other foolish antic that gets people killed or injured, duur no!!! then get a life, get a grip or get f----d with yur pro control philosophy.
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No ones trying to justify getting sloshed and taking up the helm! but what we realize is government and council intervention is just bullshit that causes malfunction where ever it goes! why change a law that all ready works fine, if it aint broke then don't try and fix it is my motto, the only reason why the government would get involved and undoubtedly furk things up like they always do is for financial gain! do you really believe they give a shit about joe bloggs killing himself on his boat, get a grip and stop sticking up for the enemy. Don't you know that having fun is at the bottom of their list and creating more reasons for tax and controlling everything is very much their priority, people that try and come up with excuse's and reasons for more and more laws are just pro state control muppets that don't like seeing other people have a good time. As i said in an earlier post having a license does not make you any less of a fool or danger to anybody else, just look at our roads does having a license stop idiots from drink driving, speeding or any other foolish antic that gets people killed or injured, duur no!!! then get a life, get a grip or get f----d with yur pro control philosophy.

Couldn't agree more.
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