Seats - Page 2

Xcraft · 25 September 2009, 12:07

take a look at www.xcraftseats.com
in house develloped, heavy duty proven seats.
Paul Lemmer tested our ribs and seats.
check the new issue of RIB International.
If you sent a mail to info@xcraft.nl we sent you a digital brochure by mail.

cuttlefish · 25 September 2009, 12:13

all of these seat are more or less the same prices (Ullman, yours, Scotia). Do you agree on prices or what? £2700 as starting prices!
Everything comes from China now, when are we going to get some more economical, but still high quality, seats?

Xcraft · 25 September 2009, 12:17

our standard seats are €2490,- incl VAT ex work.

Xcraft · 25 September 2009, 12:18

and the are totally produced in the Netherlands!!

cuttlefish · 25 September 2009, 12:34

sorry about that. I was looking at your price of 2,670, and it is in Euros, not £'s, so better than most. Are you absolutely convinced that every single nut and bolt is produced in Holland?

The problem really is that if you get a quote for a new boat, and I have several, the basic boat boat (e.g. an 8 mt) is likely to cost around £15,000, and then you start adding things on. Take my case, where I shall need at least four (if not six) of your seats, and that is at least Euros 10,000/15,000 - a good portion of the boat price. And that is only the seats! The crisis is still with us, and people are now thinking about spending only where there is top quality value, and a good change of a resale.

Xcraft · 25 September 2009, 12:47

I know what you mean.
The only thing i can say is that our seats are very strong, are made from the best materials(316 grade stainless steel, A4 stainless nuts etc) and are tested for hundreds of hours in harch conditions. And they are completely produced in Holland.
We have a lot of colour and fabric options. We are even flexible in the seatframe design since everything is waterjet cutted.

Did you read the article in RIB International? I can mail it to you if you want.

cuttlefish · 25 September 2009, 12:54

I'll buy your argument. Bung the article over to me.

I suppose what you could do is to offer a discount for those who buy 4, 6, 8 seats - i.e. or those who are bulding new boats and want your seats all throughout. What do you reckon?

Cheers,
rupert

Xcraft · 25 September 2009, 13:01

We do give discounts for people who buy more seat off course.
please sent me a email at niels@xcraft.nl then i mail the article back.

JSP · 25 September 2009, 17:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by rupert

sorry about that. I was looking at your price of 2,670, and it is in Euros, not £'s, so better than most. Are you absolutely convinced that every single nut and bolt is produced in Holland?

The problem really is that if you get a quote for a new boat, and I have several, the basic boat boat (e.g. an 8 mt) is likely to cost around £15,000, and then you start adding things on. Take my case, where I shall need at least four (if not six) of your seats, and that is at least Euros 10,000/15,000 - a good portion of the boat price. And that is only the seats! The crisis is still with us, and people are now thinking about spending only where there is top quality value, and a good change of a resale.

Just a thought, but how about just fitting 2 of the suspension seat for the helm and then the rest normal jockeys?

cuttlefish · 25 September 2009, 18:26

I bet you thought I hadn't thought of that.

The people who usually travel with me (usually of the female sex: women and children) are not at all prone to jockey seats. Indeed, they despise them, which somewhat knocks that idea on the head. I must say that I agree that they do often lead to back problems in the long-run.

willk · 25 September 2009, 19:23

Rupert is right about this. My Boating Permissions Officer hates jockey seats with a passion* and every other female I know seems to be the same. It must be a design fault (take your pick). For longer runs (more than an hour or so) I have to admit that I find them a bit pointless too - not a cruising seat

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* way too obvious JSP - don't go there...

JSP · 25 September 2009, 19:31

I really don't know what you mean young Willk

I've never used a RIB with anything but jockey seats so I can't comment to much. Myself I'm leaning towards the idea of a lean post but that's got sweet FA to do with this

Jesus I babble on!
Something that I don't understand is why the ladies find them uncomfortable? Surly they can't get a case of sitting on the old happy sack ?

cuttlefish · 25 September 2009, 20:02

whether it was a typo, JSP, but "surly" is usually the right term for these women when we get back after a couple of hours on jockey seats

JSP · 25 September 2009, 20:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by rupert

whether it was a typo, JSP, but "surly" is usually the right term for these women when we get back after a couple of hours on jockey seats

Typo but I wont edit

cuttlefish · 25 September 2009, 20:20

about it, they say they too much bike riding is not great for men, and I shouldn't think that a few hours of bouncing up and down on jockey seats does a great deal for the old private parts, either.

JSP · 25 September 2009, 20:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by rupert

about it, they say they too much bike riding is not great for men, and I shouldn't think that a few hours of bouncing up and down on jockey seats does a great deal for the old private parts, either.

With the news I've just had I'm taking the foam out of the seat and waiting for a force 9!

Twister · 02 October 2009, 19:21

Hi Jonathan,

I mailed you a couple of days ago. I'm rebuilding an arctic 28, is it possible to mail me a price list...
thanks.

Best regards,

Twister
info@noordzeecharters.nl

chewy · 02 October 2009, 19:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSP

With the news I've just had I'm taking the foam out of the seat and waiting for a force 9!

Solution to a problem: