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Old 25 September 2009, 08:07   #21
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take a look at www.xcraftseats.com
in house develloped, heavy duty proven seats.
Paul Lemmer tested our ribs and seats.
check the new issue of RIB International.
If you sent a mail to info@xcraft.nl we sent you a digital brochure by mail.
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Old 25 September 2009, 08:13   #22
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Looks good, but

all of these seat are more or less the same prices (Ullman, yours, Scotia). Do you agree on prices or what? 2700 as starting prices!
Everything comes from China now, when are we going to get some more economical, but still high quality, seats?
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Old 25 September 2009, 08:17   #23
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our standard seats are 2490,- incl VAT ex work.
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Old 25 September 2009, 08:18   #24
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and the are totally produced in the Netherlands!!
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Old 25 September 2009, 08:34   #25
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You are right,

sorry about that. I was looking at your price of 2,670, and it is in Euros, not 's, so better than most. Are you absolutely convinced that every single nut and bolt is produced in Holland?

The problem really is that if you get a quote for a new boat, and I have several, the basic boat boat (e.g. an 8 mt) is likely to cost around 15,000, and then you start adding things on. Take my case, where I shall need at least four (if not six) of your seats, and that is at least Euros 10,000/15,000 - a good portion of the boat price. And that is only the seats! The crisis is still with us, and people are now thinking about spending only where there is top quality value, and a good change of a resale.
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I know what you mean.
The only thing i can say is that our seats are very strong, are made from the best materials(316 grade stainless steel, A4 stainless nuts etc) and are tested for hundreds of hours in harch conditions. And they are completely produced in Holland.
We have a lot of colour and fabric options. We are even flexible in the seatframe design since everything is waterjet cutted.

Did you read the article in RIB International? I can mail it to you if you want.
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Old 25 September 2009, 08:54   #27
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OK XCraft,

I'll buy your argument. Bung the article over to me.

I suppose what you could do is to offer a discount for those who buy 4, 6, 8 seats - i.e. or those who are bulding new boats and want your seats all throughout. What do you reckon?

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We do give discounts for people who buy more seat off course.
please sent me a email at niels@xcraft.nl then i mail the article back.
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sorry about that. I was looking at your price of 2,670, and it is in Euros, not 's, so better than most. Are you absolutely convinced that every single nut and bolt is produced in Holland?

The problem really is that if you get a quote for a new boat, and I have several, the basic boat boat (e.g. an 8 mt) is likely to cost around 15,000, and then you start adding things on. Take my case, where I shall need at least four (if not six) of your seats, and that is at least Euros 10,000/15,000 - a good portion of the boat price. And that is only the seats! The crisis is still with us, and people are now thinking about spending only where there is top quality value, and a good change of a resale.
Just a thought, but how about just fitting 2 of the suspension seat for the helm and then the rest normal jockeys?
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Ah,

I bet you thought I hadn't thought of that. The people who usually travel with me (usually of the female sex: women and children) are not at all prone to jockey seats. Indeed, they despise them, which somewhat knocks that idea on the head. I must say that I agree that they do often lead to back problems in the long-run.
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