searider weight

henryfreston · 23 April 2014, 15:21

anybody got a rough idea of how heavy a searider 4m rig is? I am wondering whether a jimny is legally allowed to tow it on an unbraked trailer?

Henry

Ovey · 23 April 2014, 15:43

SeaRiders Found this with Google, I hope it helps!

Around 160kg is the empty weight, but then you may have to add fuel (at around 0.8kg per litre (say 20kg for 25ltr)). If you Google the weight of most engines you should find them (I'd guess around 100-150kgs for an "average" 50/60 hp engine) and I would guess a trailer for that size boat is around 250kg.

So if we say boat + 25ltr + 125kg engine + trailer = 160 + 20 + 125 + 250 = 555kg as a starter for ten?

I'm sure you can get a better approximation if you know the exact trailer/engine/fuel tank capacity. Or you can do what I (stupidly) did and take it to the weighbridge!

But you can tow up to 750kg on an unbraked trailer, providing it stays below the maximum trailer weight for your Jimny (or maximum Gross Train Weight for Jimny plus trailer).

Hope this helps?

henryfreston · 23 April 2014, 16:00

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Originally Posted by Ovey

SeaRiders Found this with Google, I hope it helps!

Around 160kg is the empty weight, but then you may have to add fuel (at around 0.8kg per litre (say 20kg for 25ltr)). If you Google the weight of most engines you should find them (I'd guess around 100-150kgs for an "average" 50/60 hp engine) and I would guess a trailer for that size boat is around 250kg.

So if we say boat + 25ltr + 125kg engine + trailer = 160 + 20 + 125 + 250 = 555kg as a starter for ten?

I'm sure you can get a better approximation if you know the exact trailer/engine/fuel tank capacity. Or you can do what I (stupidly) did and take it to the weighbridge!

But you can tow up to 750kg on an unbraked trailer, providing it stays below the maximum trailer weight for your Jimny (or maximum Gross Train Weight for Jimny plus trailer).

Hope this helps?

Thanks for the reply.

The Suzuki Jimny can only tow 350kg unbraked so I think it is going to be a no go

Still not sure what car to go for. Its for my first car so need something relatively low on insurance but can beach launch a boat without getting stuck too easy. Off road capability for around the farm would also be nice. I've also looked at the Daihatsu Terios but they dont have very good reviews at all...well neither does the jimny.

Henry

1eyedjim · 23 April 2014, 16:05

125kg for a 50hp is well over spec. my v4 90hp is 155kg and i carry my 40hp on my own so nowhere near that weight. my searider was towed behind a focus and it didnt even know it was on the back. i would have thought a searider was only 350-400kg at most on a trailer

henryfreston · 23 April 2014, 16:13

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Originally Posted by 1eyedjim

125kg for a 50hp is well over spec. my v4 90hp is 155kg and i carry my 40hp on my own so nowhere near that weight. my searider was towed behind a focus and it didnt even know it was on the back. i would have thought a searider was only 350-400kg at most on a trailer

The outboard I have is a tohatsu tldi 50hp which weighs 93kg

Ovey · 23 April 2014, 16:52

That works out a bit better. Like I said, it was an approximation as a starter. Not sure about exact weight until actual specs etc are known for the boat, engine & trailer.

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henryfreston · 23 April 2014, 16:54

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Originally Posted by Ovey

That works out a bit better. Like I said, it was an approximation as a starter. Not sure about exact weight until actual specs etc are known for the boat, engine & trailer.

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yeh still think the jimny isn't going to be enough. I am really surprised that a vauxhall corsa has a higher unbraked towing capacity than a jimny!

Exe treme · 23 April 2014, 17:40

Hi Henry
Even with the lower engine weight, you are looking towards 500kg, so it might be worth looking at something else. Have you considered a SWB Suzuki Grand Vitara 1.6?
They are a bit thirsty, but reliable and very capable offroad if that is a must have.
Boat 150kg
Engine 93kg
Rigging 30kg
Trailer 200kg
Plus Fuel, Gear etc.

SimonStDavids · 23 April 2014, 20:22

I used to tow my searider with my wifes nissan micra. Sounds crap and it was, but it managed to tow it without bother anywhere

Never bothered to check the weight of the setup or the legal towing weight of the car if the truth be told but never had a problem.

Also it has a high ride and went pretty much anywhere (within reason). We keep bees at the other end of a farm and used to bump across farmland in all but the wettest conditions without getting stuck too much. It was old (a hand-me down from her grandfather) ran on fresh air and cost nothing to insure, i am sure you could pick one up for a few hundred quid in good nick

henryfreston · 23 April 2014, 20:47

The problem is because I am a first time driver (I am 17 in July) so insurance isn't going to happen on anything above a 1.3L. I am pushing it with a jimmy as it is because even they are quite high on insurance compared to your standard corsa etc.

So I should get away with a jimny for towing the searider? It may be out of the legal tow weight range but I am basically using it as a work horse to tow the bought from the caravan park to the beach which is about 1km away just down the hill.

Ovey · 23 April 2014, 22:03

I could be wrong but I'm not sure if you're allowed to tow a trailer due to your age/experience level. You'd have to check.

Either way I'd make sure you're legal with regards to tow weight for the car, even if you are just dragging it 100 yards down the road (hence my expensive quest for a new trailer to put me back in favour with the boys in fluorescent jackets)!

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