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Old 06 September 2012, 12:08   #1
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Scam? to good to be true?

So im in the process of buying a new rib & selling my thundercat. Ive found a nice 2008 AB 14vst with a yamaha 60 4 stroke on the back somewhere in bristol. This is on boats & outboards & ive contacted them saying i want to buy it! It costs 3100 & looks perfect! i ask for some more photos and they send me a link to their website. & it turns out this boat has never been used and still has the full warranty! When i go on there website theres loads of boats for incredibly cheap prices! Eg: a 1996 nautica 16ft 90hp jet rib in mint condition for 2600!!! i look for an address to see where in bristol they are but theres no address & i can find a telephone number anywhere??? theres only an email section Alot of the photos of the boats are in america too not the UK. lastly i little while ago i saw a avon searider on here with someone saying its a scam & the boats in america. & geuss what....i found the same boat for sale on this website!?

Has anybody heard of Craft bay before!?

this is the boat im looking at -
Craft Bay - New & used outboards, inboards, boats, jet skis, sporting goods & more at low prices!


Someone help!!! should i carry on until im sure if its legit or not?? i wont hand anymoney over till i see the boat and all the paperwork has been sorted! So would it be worth to carry on to find out?
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Old 06 September 2012, 12:12   #2
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Whole site is a scam forget it
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Old 06 September 2012, 12:13   #3
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Whole site is a scam forget it
is it really!?
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Yes absolutely feckin definate!
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Yes absolutely feckin definate!

ahhhh dam!! know anyone thats had problems with these people before then?
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They'll be called something else next week, B&O are sadly littered with scams, sometimes it'll be for a whole site like you've found or for a single Rib/outboard etc. if your not sure put the link on here someone will advise.
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They'll be called something else next week, B&O are sadly littered with scams, sometimes it'll be for a whole site like you've found or for a single Rib/outboard etc. if your not sure put the link on here someone will advise.
Well that sucks!! got hyped up about this boat, sold my one (but i should be able to cancel) and well this happens!! great And all the other Ribs that would suit me are out of my price range!!

this is a link to there home page...

Craft Bay - New & used outboards, boats, jet skis & more at low prices!
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Looking at Craft Bay - New & used outboards, inboards, boats, jet skis, sporting goods & more at low prices! I notice the following:

How can you sell so cheap?
Answer: Craft Bay is known coast-to-coast as "The Alternative To Retail Prices". We accomplish this by volume buying and passing the savings onto the customer.

This should be cheaply, cheap is a US term as is coast-to-coast.

Will other dealers honor the warranties on motors sold by Craft Bay?

Honor is again US spelling.

Do you charge sales tax?

Sales tax is again US, we would call it VAT.

A lot of US terminology for a UK company!
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thought this looked cheap

avon adventurer rib yamaha 115 in Newcastle | Boats, Kayaks & Jet Skis for Sale | Gumtree.com
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Luke, Anybody selling boats will normally be happy to provide a physical address, and a phone number on their website - not having those is an immediate alarm bell. Be VERY suspicious of any boat transaction where they don't allow you to collect the goods. If the price is too good to be true it usually is.

If in doubt then something like: Craft-Bay.com - Craft Bay - New & used outboards, boats, jet skis, sCraft Baying goods & more at low prices! is a good start to check who owns the site (often someone outside the UK!). Searching for the registered owner can be interesting: Byron Baddoo - UK address and phone number - 192.com he does seem to exist... whether he knows he is the registered owner I don't know. If I was about to hand over a large sum of I'd have been tempted to give him a ring first.

At least you found out before you got scammed!
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