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Old 14 November 2011, 18:09   #1
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Salcombe Harbour Ruining Salcombe once again!

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As I've said, I have nothing against the speed limit in the harbour but they keep pushing the speed limit further and further out to sea... We're going to be in France soon to go above 6 knots!

Of course none of this applies to Sailing boats either!

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Old 14 November 2011, 20:36   #2
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Salcombe always make me laugh, I was crew on a 20 meter motor training vessel this summer and after being put on a visitors bouy by the harbour master we were asked to move by a sailing type as were were in the way of thier race. As you can imagine we politely refused and then spent the next hour of wanton chaos with sailing boats cutting every where. I was in the RIB doing a shore run as was nearly hit twice whilst still being tied to the back of the ship with the boats trying to cut dangerously close accross our stern.

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Old 15 November 2011, 12:16   #4
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Many thanks to Ribeye for sharing the link but for those that aren't fans on Facebook :

Salcombe get tough on speeding boat owners | Motorboat news | MBM

As I've said, I have nothing against the speed limit in the harbour but they keep pushing the speed limit further and further out to sea... We're going to be in France soon to go above 6 knots!

Of course none of this applies to Sailing boats either!

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I live in Salcombe and I hate where they have moved the speed limit to, but your link talks about two people who behaved in a way that needs prosecuting! I would hope that if I got rammed up the transom by a boat they would prosecute as well!
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Old 15 November 2011, 14:09   #5
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[QUOTE=Cookee;429805]I live in Salcombe and I hate where they have moved the speed limit to ..... QUOTE]

Does the 8kt harbour speed limit no longer start at a line running roughly NE from Great Eelstone to Portlemouth Down then?
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Old 15 November 2011, 15:19   #6
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I live in Salcombe and I hate where they have moved the speed limit to ..... QUOTE]

Does the 8kt harbour speed limit no longer start at a line running roughly NE from Great Eelstone to Portlemouth Down then?
It never used to be to Great Eelstone - it used to be further in than that, pretty much by Bar Lodge, but the current Harbour Master decided he would enforce the speed limit to the official Harbour limits.
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It's the same at Dartmouth - DHNA keep pushing the limiout - it used to start at the Castle - it's now a mile further out pretty much at castle ledge bouy. In a sea as choppy as the Range it's a long time to be slamming about at 6kts - a speed Ribs aren't really designed for.
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Sorry, forgot to add, speed limit apparantly does not apply to:
a) local fishing craft
b) grockle boats
c) RN craft
d) HMRC / Police on non urgent duties

Just leisure craft
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I live in Salcombe and I hate where they have moved the speed limit to, but your link talks about two people who behaved in a way that needs prosecuting! I would hope that if I got rammed up the transom by a boat they would prosecute as well!
Yeah I do agree with prosecuting the idiots and ramming people certainly falls into that category, to be perfectly honest I saw that as a secondary part to the article with a warning about the stricter limits but I can see where the confusion came in! Apologies
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Old 16 November 2011, 07:03   #10
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Sorry, forgot to add, speed limit apparantly does not apply to:
a) local fishing craft
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So what is this saying to you? To me it says that they don't want ribs or maybe pleasure craft down there. Have they given any reason ?

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Old 16 November 2011, 07:40   #11
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[QUOTE=biffer;429918]So what is this saying to you? To me it says that they don't want ribs or maybe pleasure craft down there.

An alternative view is that they believe 'professional boaters' will drive responsibly but have there doubts about the leisure side and have therefore came out with a blanket ruling that makes it easier to notice the irresponsible.

The guy, in the newspaper article, who had a number of warnings before being taking to court springs to mind as most people would have taken the hint after the first warning.
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Old 16 November 2011, 08:42   #12
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So what is this saying to you? To me it says that they don't want ribs or maybe pleasure craft down there. Have they given any reason ?

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As far as Salcombe goes the Harbour Master has the option to enforce the speed limit out as far as his jurisdiction goes, they are all in a health and safety nightmare and running scared, he has chosen to extend the speed limit as far as he can so that he can't get sued over someone getting run over.
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How long has the population been boating. This HSE has got to stop its crippling this country

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It's the same at Dartmouth - DHNA keep pushing the limiout - it used to start at the Castle - it's now a mile further out pretty much at castle ledge bouy. In a sea as choppy as the Range it's a long time to be slamming about at 6kts - a speed Ribs aren't really designed for.
The restriction is about 150 yds in form the Castle Ledge Buoy now which makes things a little easier!
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