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Old 04 July 2007, 15:02   #41
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As a yachtmaster instructor I teach the same. At the shout of man overboard get someone to watch them. In a yacht travelling at speed you can be 100m away and still have no way of slowing - with a spinnaker up (thats the big colourful one up front) it can take minutes to get the boat stopped let alone think about returning.

However, what this taught me was real life is not an exercise. That was my 10 year old, not a bucket and fender!! I could not take my eyes off her after seeing her thrown like a rag doll, was she ok, did her lifejacket do the job etc etc. Don't think you'll be any different when it happens for real, to your nearest and dearest.
Good point, you must have really thought the worst when it happened. I'm glad it turned out alright. Even though it will be difficult to remember any sort of drill in a bad situation like the one you experienced, any safety measures/drills that you can put in place on a boat will make it that bit safer for all. What happened to your daughter was not an everyday occurance that you can plan for, and having 3 daughters myself its something that i dread happening. The general idea of a designated lookout is a good one, in most situations. I'm glad it turned out ok Genoa
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Old 05 July 2007, 04:22   #42
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Hi all, much good stuff about kill cords etc . And thanks all for the nice words about it all turning out ok. It was horrible!
However she didn't see it that way especially when the new wardrobe arrived.

What I would like is some more feedback on the line of approach to a big wake and any other tactics for avoiding the accident happening (we will not be using the bow deck on passage again!)

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Old 05 July 2007, 05:12   #43
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I'm pretty sure that most newer kill switches allow you to restart the engine once without the kill cord after it has been activated for this very reason.
I think that is just on the mercury/mariner ones with the flick switch isn't it.

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Old 05 July 2007, 05:51   #44
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I think that is just on the mercury/mariner ones with the flick switch isn't it.

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Yes, the flick switch ones are easy, but I have seen a restart demoed on a new etec which have the clip type kill cords.

Just to make sure I wasn't going completely mad here is an extract from the Evinrude Etec user manual:

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engine can be started without the clip in place.
Follow the normal starting procedure. Reinstall
a clip as soon as possible.
I haven't tried it on my Yamaha yet... but I will do next time I take it out as it's definitely worth knowing whether you need a spare kill cord or not!
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Old 05 July 2007, 07:07   #45
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it's definitely worth knowing whether you need a spare kill cord or not!
You should definitely have a spare kill cord and keep it readily available - I keep mine on the back of the front passenger seat.

  • If the helms gone overboard then it’s reasonable to assume that conditions are such that it could happen again during MOB recovery (less so if it was cause by wake)
  • You may find that the kill cord has been lost when you recover the MOB - you then have no kill cord for the journey home
  • You may have a less experienced crew member at the helm while recovering the MOB. It would therefore seem sensible to make sure they're using the kill cord to stop them moving away from the helm or incase they get ejected.
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I'm pretty sure that most newer kill switches allow you to restart the engine once without the kill cord after it has been activated for this very reason.
The (presumably standard) ignition/kill switch on my Johnson certainly does that, but when you put the kill cord back on it kills the engine again, so you have to choose your moment carefully! I carry a spare one in the locker anyway, on the basis that if the one I am wearing breaks or gets lost I don't want to be travelling any distance without one.
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Old 05 July 2007, 08:07   #47
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That do other people think about putting out a "May Day" as soon as a MOB happens? I have to say I think it is a bit over the top but it is recommended!
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That do other people think about putting out a "May Day" as soon as a MOB happens? I have to say I think it is a bit over the top but it is recommended!
I think weather and situation would dictate this. If calm, person has lifejacket, not too busy - probably not. If F7, huge waves in shipping channel then definitely yes. Anything in between - skippers call.
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people think about putting out a "May Day" as soon as a MOB happens?
I believe up until about 10 years ago Man Overboard only constituted a Pan Pan call. It was then changed to May Day only if "there is imminent or likely threat to life" otherwise it is still a Pan Pan, or, as Sarah says get them out of the water before anyone else gets involved.
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I believe up until about 10 years ago Man Overboard only constituted a Pan Pan call. It was then changed to May Day only if "there is imminent or likely threat to life" otherwise it is still a Pan Pan, or, as Sarah says get them out of the water before anyone else gets involved.
On my VHF course last year (or was it PB2), we were told MOB is always a MAYDAY
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