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Old 27 December 2007, 10:46   #11
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The last three are eminently sensible - 3 & 4 are taken directly from the SOLAS requirements for items to be carried in liferafts / ships lifeboats.

The liferaft requirement does seem a bit over the top though - must admit I've never noticed a proliferation of liferafts on French boast and I spend half my time in Frenh ports!

How is it enforced in relation to expiry dates, release mechanisms, etc ?

On mentioning it to a few of the crew, I received a wonderful smile and Gallic shrug from our bosun, who also has his own rib. Yes he knows the rules, everyone knows the rules, which is why for years he has had an empty liferaft cannister strapped to the boat!
The liferaft legislation is quite recent and is only required for boat navigating more than 6 nm from a shelter. The definition of what a shelter is is vague to say the least.
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Old 27 December 2007, 10:53   #12
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When I put rope down with the anchor I did think of spare rope aswell but I didn't separate it. I will do so straight away. A rope can be used as a throw line or a tow line or whatever I think. I'll have a parachute (floating anchor) on board as I drift alot, so there will always be plenty of rope laying around.
My anchor rope is only 8mm (IIRC). My tow rope is 18mm. Tow rope can float - anchor rope must not. My throw line is 10 mm floating rope in a bag specifically intended to make it throw. I'm not saying one rope can't do all 3 jobs but worth bearing in mind that there are different types of rope suited to different applications.
OK, I understand what you're saying. When I bought the boat anchor rope & tow rope (don't know if it floats) where provided. I'm not convinced however that a specific throw line is really worth having. I might change my mind with use.
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Old 27 December 2007, 11:09   #13
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Take a lifejacket per person even if they wear a wetsuit-if someone goes in in rough seas then a wetsuit won't keep their head up.
Add a thermal/foil blanket or two as well. They are cheap and take up about the same amount of room as a packet of cigarettes.

Personally I have a personal day/night flare,a blunt ended knife and a waterproof handheld VHF attached to my lifejacket too-mostly aimed at getting myself rescued if I go overboard solo and can't get back to the boat. I had one too many high speed near-ejections on my old sr4.
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Old 27 December 2007, 11:34   #14
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The newly updated list so far :
- flares
- a lifejacket per person onboard
- chart
- compass
- fog horn
- a waterproof torche
- anchor, chain & rope
- tow rope
- first aid kit including thermal/foil blanket
- screw driver, spark plug spanner, adjustable spanner, knife
- spare batteries for my portable GPS
- spare pull cord
- spare kill cord
- duck tape
- oars
- bailler / bucket
- spare prop & spanner
- inflation pump
- a horseshoe float
- a floating self righting flash light
- mirror

I've removed the rollup anorak for the thermal/foil blanket. I'm really not convinced that the mirror is worth having but for the price and space it takes up i'll get one anyway.
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Old 27 December 2007, 12:36   #15
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The newly updated list so far :
- flares
- a lifejacket per person onboard
- chart
- compass
- fog horn
- a waterproof torche
- anchor, chain & rope
- tow rope
- first aid kit including thermal/foil blanket
- screw driver, spark plug spanner, adjustable spanner, knife
- spare batteries for my portable GPS
- spare pull cord
- spare kill cord
- duck tape
- oars
- bailler / bucket
- spare prop & spanner
- inflation pump
- a horseshoe float
- a floating self righting flash light
- mirror

I've removed the rollup anorak for the thermal/foil blanket. I'm really not convinced that the mirror is worth having but for the price and space it takes up i'll get one anyway.
Pablo

Interesting thought - spurred me to action too so I did a check against the RYA Powerboat Handbook. Some obvious additional points from there:
- VHF Radio (not mentioned in your post at all)
- Fire extinguisher(s)
- Tube repair kit
- Water (good point this!)
- Your mobile phone in waterproof bag

They also mention:
- a watch (rather too obvious but necessary!)
- "Relevant Shapes" (well...)
- Almanac (if you don't carry this then suggest at least having laminated tide tables of your relevant primary/local ports)

Other things you might want to consider:
- Spare handheld VHF (or this anyway if you don't have a fixed unit)
- Spare electrical fuses
- Energy foods
- Navigation Protractor (of your favoured type)
- Laminated Mayday procedure - preferably taped down next to radio
- Sunblock
- Adding a 'leatherman' type multitool to your toolkit - surprising how often you need 2 pliers.

Hope that helps...
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Old 27 December 2007, 13:11   #16
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Puncture repair for the boat . A couple of those clamp in devices (can't remember the name ?) especially if you have spear guns about
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Old 27 December 2007, 14:24   #17
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Any suggestions on spare prop ( and the nut / split pin). In a reasonable size boat is this OTT ?( even if its not 100% efiicient / same pitch etc - a get you home type back up ?)
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Old 28 December 2007, 05:18   #18
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Pablo

Interesting thought - spurred me to action too so I did a check against the RYA Powerboat Handbook. Some obvious additional points from there:
- VHF Radio (not mentioned in your post at all)
- Fire extinguisher(s)
- Tube repair kit
- Water (good point this!)
- Your mobile phone in waterproof bag

They also mention:
- a watch (rather too obvious but necessary!)
- "Relevant Shapes" (well...)
- Almanac (if you don't carry this then suggest at least having laminated tide tables of your relevant primary/local ports)

Other things you might want to consider:
- Spare handheld VHF (or this anyway if you don't have a fixed unit)
- Spare electrical fuses
- Energy foods
- Navigation Protractor (of your favoured type)
- Laminated Mayday procedure - preferably taped down next to radio
- Sunblock
- Adding a 'leatherman' type multitool to your toolkit - surprising how often you need 2 pliers.

Hope that helps...
Great reply, thanks.

I've not mentioned VHF because I said all elements barring the electronics.
Is a fire extinguisher truely useful compared to a bucket of water ?
A tube repair kit or a clamp device as suggested by Ian. Possibly a good idea although i've never seen a RIBs tube become punctured enough to deflate completely.
Spare fuses are a good idea though.
Energy foods & water will be renewed for each trip. In France energy foods usually consist in baguette & dried sausages (i'm joking).
OK for the watch & mobile phone.
What on earth are "Relevant Shapes" ?
An Almanac, very good suggestion, here it's the Almanac du Marin Breton.
A Navigation Protractor, OK
Sunblock during the summer.
Multitool, already onboard.

@Blackroady the spare prop is already on the list.

I'll put up the updated list. I think there are a few redundent elements.
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Old 28 December 2007, 05:25   #19
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The newly updated list so far :
- flares
- a lifejacket per person onboard
- chart
- compass
- fog horn
- a waterproof torche
- anchor, chain & rope
- tow rope
- first aid kit including thermal/foil blanket
- screw driver, spark plug spanner, adjustable spanner, knife, pliers
- spare spark plugs
- spare batteries for my portable GPS
- spare pull cord
- spare kill cord
- duck tape
- paddles
- bailler / bucket
- spare prop & spanner
- inflation pump
- a horseshoe float
- a floating self righting flash light
- mirror
- spare fuses
- watch & mobile phone
- Almanac
- Navigation Protractor
- multitool


Are there any redundent items ? I have the impression i'm going to have to buy every object on ribshop's security items list and more !
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Is a fire extinguisher truely useful compared to a bucket of water ?
You really don't want a bucket of water on a fire involving petrol.
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