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Old 24 October 2010, 14:26   #1
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Safety Boat Crew Training..

Hi everyone, purely out of interest, what training go you guys give to your Safety Boat Crews?
(either at your sailing club, or indeed in your ideal world!)
As I say, just interested in how different clubs do things, that's all.
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RYA Safety Boat Qualification AND experience of how to right a cat.

It may also be worth a basic sailing introduction so people know what you are talking about when you say "grab the forestay" and don't look at you blankly!

Basic First Aid ticket is a sensible addition but most sailing clubs work on a scoop and run principle!!

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RYA Safety Boat Qualification AND experience of how to right a cat.

It may also be worth a basic sailing introduction so people know what you are talking about when you say "grab the forestay" and don't look at you blankly!

Basic First Aid ticket is a sensible addition but most sailing clubs work on a scoop and run principle!!

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Chris,
Thank you so much for this.
Is that for the crew, or the helm?
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Chris,
Thank you so much for this.
Is that for the crew, or the helm?
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That's for the helm but we do try to get crews up to the same standards.

Cat recovery used to be covered in the old RYA Sailing Club Rescue Cox Certificate but they dropped it when they brought out the RYA Safety Boat ticket and covered it as theory.

It is a shame as cats are quite common and they can be quite hard to right without a bit of practice.

Don't forget to cover basic VHF use as many clubs operating on M1 or M2 don't give people any training and their comms are unreliable.

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Chris,
thank you.

At our club, every member has to do 2 duties as rescue crew every year.

Coxwains have PB2, Safety Boat, VHF, First Aid, be 18+, and be liked by the Cheif Cox (last 2 being the big problem for me!)

it's just interested, I've seen some places with "a three hour powerboat familiarisation session", and some places with crews and helms being equally incredibly qualified.
Talk about a bit of a difference!
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Our Club:

For Dinghy Events:

Safety Boat, preferred VHF & First Aid. 18+

To Use Club RIB to Lay Marks for the Yachts:

Powerboat II and to be approved by the an approved Club Instructor/or chief cox. 18 +

We also provide basic in house training to crews, and helms, and offer subsidised training for people who show commitment to club. We have the use of a full size MOB dummy to play with too.

VHF operators Certificate for Helms are not general problem, since we organise VHF courses at the club house pretty regularly. Operating on M or M2 you don't need one legally.

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The Reason for 18+, was after an incident on the water when the safety boat pulled in an unconscious kid from water as the boat drifted away, the crew had nightmares & flash backs. It was decided if the person was younger it might had screwed there life by failing exams etc. I personally wanted to make age higher 21+ ...but I was the helm that day...The incident was not part of an club organised event, we had cancelled sailing for the day due to the conditions, we had to launch especially for him.
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Our Club:

For Dinghy Events:

Safety Boat, preferred VHF & First Aid.

To Use Club RIB to Lay Marks for the Yachts:

Powerboat II and to be approved by the an approved Club Instructor /or chief cox.

We also provide basic in house training to crews, and helms, and offer subsidised training for people who show commitment to club. We have the use of a full size MOB dummy to play with too.

VHF operators Certificate for Helms are not general problem, since we organise VHF courses at the club house pretty regularly. Operating on M or M2 you don't need one legally.

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SPR, I see
Do you train your crews too?
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As you will find out, you will do on the Job training for your crews...in ideal world everybody should be trained, but in real world, if you can put a good qualified expernice helm out with a novice crew who listens, they learn a lot.

Main thing is you brife them before going on water, and do a safety brief on boat. 9 out 10 times they will be Dinghy sailor too.

Its making it fun for the crew and helm, and you end up with the crew wanting to do PBII and Safety Boat.

If it is border line conditions or forced out, I prefer to use my own crew of choice, since i know i am well covered, my preferred crew are people who i have trained over years...

I updated my post to include 18 +, and the reason why...^

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SPR, thank you.

I'm sorry, I'm afraid you've lost me on the 18+.......
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I'm sorry, I'm afraid you've lost me on the 18+.......
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