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Old 16 March 2013, 03:00   #11
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I think Ribochet's comment are very valid.

If you are going for a considerably bigger boat, may be worth looking at Own Boat Tuition, not only will this be boat specific but it will allow the Instructor to focus the course 100% on where you want to go.

As already mentioned the Sea Survival and SRC courses are interesting too.
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Thanks again for all the great advice! , I agree Doug stormforce on it being dependent on the size. I would like to do the next course on the next boat.

I have a 4m boat which has been great 1st boat, but will need something bigger with 3 or 4 jockey seats.

my next boat will need to be 5m to 6m.
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As already mentioned the Sea Survival and SRC courses are interesting too.
You honestly think the SRC (VHF) course is "interesting"? The most interesting thing about it was wondering who at Offcom / RYA / MCA had come up with the syllabus, delivery method and "exam" format and believes its an effective learning.

Oh and discovering that my complexion should be described as fair not pale!

Obviously individual instructors vary in quality, but any course which relies principally on the charisma of the instructor to get you through it is not "interesting". Its probably not the least interesting day of my life, but it could be in my top 20!
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NO??? Then you went to the wrong place. Any day in a classroom can be boring but I cant think of many src courses when we have not had a good laugh, a course victim (usually me), met new friends and told tall tales of sea adventures. All whilst doing the learning thing. The quality of the instructor is what makes the centre-otherwise we would all be clones and there would be no point in choosing one centre over another.
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You honestly think the SRC (VHF) course is "interesting"? The most interesting thing about it was wondering who at Offcom / RYA / MCA had come up with the syllabus, delivery method and "exam" format and believes its an effective learning.
First to get a GMDSS Short Range Certificate in the ROI under the ISA - a student has to enrol on a two day course so therefore the RYA have been doing us a great favour all along in getting agreement to run their SRC course in only one day.

Second it is the European Conference of Postal and Telecommunications Administrations (CEPT) that sets the SRC regulations

Finally as of 2014 the SRC course will then be a minimum of 10 hours long with a clear separation between the training and examination to meet CEPT requirements - never wish for what you might get
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NO??? Then you went to the wrong place.
quite probably; but the instructor wasn't that* bad - and he genuinely seemed interested in what he was talking about - although I'd guess he doesn't actually use a DSC radio very often. I don't doubt that if the RYA had been mystery shopping that day he'd have got a good mark. I obviously have no way of selecting my 'class mates' in advance and that may be a factor.
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Any day in a classroom can be boring but I cant think of many src courses when we have not had a good laugh, a course victim (usually me), met new friends and told tall tales of sea adventures.
does that mean that the SRC course is "interesting" or just that if you put enough people with some vague common interest in a room with a charismatic facilitator for a fixed period of time that you can find it enjoyable?
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All whilst doing the learning thing. The quality of the instructor is what makes the centre-otherwise we would all be clones and there would be no point in choosing one centre over another.
Yes but I'm not talking about the instruction - I take it for granted that there are good centres and bad centres, and some will be good at one thing and not at another. However I remain to be convinced that the SRC course is worth the time and effort.

IF THE SRC COURSE WAS NOT MANDATORY FOR VHF USERS:

(1) Do you think you would still get large numbers of participants?

(2) Do you think you could design a better course that didn't have prescriptive content / format that would actually better equip your students for using a radio on a boat.




* I recently attended a workshop run by some people from HMRC which has redefined my expectations at how bad the delivery can be!
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First to get a GMDSS Short Range Certificate in the ROI under the ISA - a student has to enrol on a two day course so therefore the RYA have been doing us a great favour all along in getting agreement to run their SRC course in only one day.
Sounds like RYA logic to me. Perhaps the Irish are learning something we are not (although I accept they may not be learning anything else useful or interesting)?
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Well that's certainly not what I was wishing for BUT the exam was a joke, and I think if the aim is to improve understanding and communications then that makes sense. However if the aim was to get more people to do the training and reach a basic level of competence then shortening the course might have been better.
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As far as I'm led to believe there will be an option to do the training online then the assessment at a RTC or the whole thing at the centre with, as has already been said a clear difference between training and assessment. One of the clear differences will be one person training and another assessing. The RYA very much has its hands tied by CEPT as to what they must do, similar to the new requirement for inter and adv powerboat courses, not so much the RYA doing it as the MCA.
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