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Old 11 March 2013, 20:23   #11
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BTW you do not have to be a member of the RYA to operate as a RYA Instructor.
but they do get to take part in the pyramid selling scheme partners programme! and to renew your certs does it not cost the same as joining if you are not a member?
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Old 12 March 2013, 04:43   #12
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Very comprehensive

and last but not least - a LJ cannot be worn under any outer garment
Good point if it is a proper lifejacket but is it a lifejacket or a buoyancy aid he is wearing ,
My musto foul weather jacket has a buoyancy / floatation waistcoat that can be zipped inside .
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I past experience it will be a BA , since if the person turned up with a LJ it would be on top of the vest.

As poly said its usually PBI in boats , or APBI's

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Good point ,,,but is it a lifejacket or buoyancy aid he is wearing ,
My musto foul weather jacket has a buoyancy waistcoat that can be zipped inside .
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the yellow shirt is over the BA.
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As per SPR - BA - buoyancy aid - which I always wear when I am providing safety cover or general "messing" about - top piece of kit
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Update in relation to the above

As of the 1st of October 2013 the following changes will take place:

1) All new applicants for RYA instructor qualifications will need to be RYA members in order to be eligible to be awarded the instructor qualification. They may either join in advance of the instructor course or at the time that their instructor application is submitted to the RYA.

2) All instructors wishing to update their RYA instructor qualifications (required every 5 years for most disciplines) will also need to be RYA members in order for the update to be processed.
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Update in relation to the above

As of the 1st of October 2013 the following changes will take place:

1) All new applicants for RYA instructor qualifications will need to be RYA members in order to be eligible to be awarded the instructor qualification. They may either join in advance of the instructor course or at the time that their instructor application is submitted to the RYA.

2) All instructors wishing to update their RYA instructor qualifications (required every 5 years for most disciplines) will also need to be RYA members in order for the update to be processed.
Why has this change been brought in?
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During the competition they are safety boat(s) on standby, so do you really need full Lifejackets - any body will be recovered under a few minutes.

It's all about the correct kit for situation, I have seen the Risk Assessments about 20 pages!

The over yellow shirt is to give sponsors maximum publicity - considering they donate boats and engines as prizes not too bad compromise!

Scottish Regional Finial - Sunday 9th June - strathclyde park

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you forgot to mention that the right kit includes having a honda engine as well

you could have also added that you could then play on the giant doughnuts that had honda 2.3's in them and were next to the honda powered ribs. at Strathclyde park where the scottish event took place!

on a more serious note and the the only negative I found was the RYA's attitude to who could take part as I would like to see it opened up to everyone's kids.

Boat handling at all ages should be encourage for everyone and not just people in sailing clubs!
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This is from the comms that I received

Re: RYA Instructor Membership

I am writing to you following a recent decision by RYA Council concerning RYA membership for key stakeholders within the RYA.

Standard practice within virtually all sporting bodies over many years has been to require all those engaged in any stake holding role related to the organisation to be members of the governing body for that sport. Typically this involves instructors, officials and various other roles relating to the sport. The logic behind such an approach is to encourage commitment and interaction between both the individual and the governing body. Clearly it is appropriate for a governing body to maintain a healthy and direct relationship with its key stakeholders. Equally, it is essential for those stakeholders to be able to demonstrate an on-going association with and commitment to their relevant governing body and indeed to the sport.

The RYA has decided to pursue a similar strategy.
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Well, as a non instructor, but pure leisure user, and I have been a member of the RYA I can't really say it's done much for me.

Yes I have done RYA courses - but the appropriate fee which helps the RYA to train the trainers, so market place transaction.

I know it's meant to be the pressure group representing boater to parliament etc, but many of their recommendations / decisions I do not agree with, and they haven't prevented some fundamental changes in law that affect everyone.

My view it is an elite, not very accountable body very large-WAFI biased that thinks it know what's best fro a very wide range of interests.

do shoot me down if I'm wrong.

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Cheers but I bet it won't stop there, next will be anyone issued a commercial endorsement and then later anyone who takes one of their yacht/powerboat courses that issues a ticket.

Am I being too cynical ? No
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