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Old 06 September 2007, 04:31   #11
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I too come from a diving background and would highly recommend the RYA Advanced course.
BS-AC (along with the other diving associations) have produced a very good guide for (non commercial dive ribs) ie ribs used by individuals and clubs. It covers all the mandatory and optional equipment to be carried, along with many other aspects.

A copy can be downloaded from
http://www.bsac.org/uploads/document...delines_04.pdf


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Talk to the guys at Compass Sea School down the road from you at Portishead - excellent guys and very happy to advise on any aspects.
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Old 11 September 2007, 16:19   #13
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Thanks for the further info guys!!!

Can anyone point me in the direction of the current syllabus for this Advanced Course?

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Old 11 September 2007, 16:28   #15
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But anything in slightly more detail than:
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Includes pilotage, navigation and boat handling techniques for planing boats on coastal waters by day and night.
Well, actually, a lot more detailed?

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When I was thinking about doing the advanced course finding information was not easy. I came accross this somewhere, sorry I do not remember where I got it from.

RYA Advanced – Powerboat

Aim: To teach boat handling, seamanship, pilotage and navigation up to the standards required to drive a planing powerboat safely by day and night in tidal coastal waters with which the candidate may be familiar.

Ratio: 1: 6 (using two boats)

Assumed knowledge: Candidates should be competent to the standard of the RYA Intermediate Powerboat certificate with a thorough knowledge of navigation and chartwork to the level of the Day Skipper theory shorebased certificate.

You are required to hold a first aid certificate and a VHF operator’s certificate.

Duration: 2 days & 1 evening

Minimum age: 17

PRACTICAL

Preparation for sea

Can:

- Prepare the powerboat
- Carry out fuel and engine checks
- Stow and secure gear

Boat handling

Knowledge of:

- Differences for a twin engine vessel

Understands:

- Characteristics of various hull forms and propeller configurations
- Action to be taken in rough weather

Can:

- Demonstrate a practical understanding and correct use of power trim and trim tabs
- Demonstrate an awareness of the effects of wind and tide when manoeuvring, including:
- Steering to transits
- Turning in a confined space
- Berthing in various conditions of wind and tide
- Picking up and leaving a mooring buoy
- Demonstrate the use of an appropriate length kill cord at all times

Passage making and responsibility as skipper

Understands:

- The importance of pre-trip planning
- Planning and making coastal passages, taking into account the relevant navigational hazards, the type of boat and the strengths of the crew
- Chart plotter and radar, their advantages and limitations

Can:

- Carry out pilotage plans and pilotage for entry into or departure from harbour
- Use leading and clearing lines, transits, back bearings and soundings as aids to pilotage
- Use GPS and understand its limitations in pilotage
- Navigate using soundings

Meterology

Knowledge of:

- Terms used in shipping forecasts; including the Beaufort scale, and their significance to small craft

Understands:

- Sources of forecast information and interpretation of forecasts including synoptic charts
- The significance of meteorological trends

Rules of the road

Can:

- Apply the international regulations for preventing collisions at sea

Use of engines

Knowledge of:

- How to change a propeller
- Propeller diameter and pitch
- Propeller ventilation and cavitation

Understands:

- Checks to be made before starting, during running and after stopping for diesel and petrol engines
- Periodic checks on engines and electrical system including spark plugs, water filters and pump impellers
- How to bleed the fuel system (diesel), change filters and pump impellers, transmission belts
- Spares to be carried

Emergency situations

Understands:

- Correct action to take in emergency situations
- Fire prevention and fighting
- Hull damage/watertight integrity
- What to do in a medical emergency
- Towing and being towed
- Helicopter rescue procedures
- Use of flares
- Search patterns

Can:

- Pick up a man overboard in all available conditions

Night cruising

Can:

- Take charge of a powerboat at night, including leaving and entering harbour
- Demonstrate ability at keeping a proper lookout and identifying lit and unlit marks by night
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Thanks very much V666.

Does anyone know what the First Aid Certificate must be?

Is there an equivalence list and time limit on course date?

Sorry for the continuing questions !

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First Aid is 3 yrs for these purposes and can be from most governing bodies.

Most people do the RYA 1 day or MCA STCW'95 1 day but you can use

EFR Primary and Secondry Care
HSE Appointed Person
HSE First Aid at Work
St John or Red Cross 1 day and countless others
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You will find all RYA powerboat syllabus in G20/04 available from most good swindleries or direct from the RYA.
It may be helpful to know that 'Can', 'Understands' and 'Knowledge of' are competency levels and as such, if a section says 'Can', you must be able to do that element of the course. 'Understands' means that you need to be able to show your intructor that you have a thorough understanding of that subject. He/she may simply ask you a series of questions to test your understanding. If you require a 'knowledge of' a certain issue, it might be covered relatively superficially on the course and you may be reffered to some out of course reading/research to devlop your knowledge in the future.
I think the essence of the ADV course, is about taking command. The course assumes that you have a good deal of experience and knowledge and as such, the emphasis should be more on testing you than teaching you. This is a rather different to Lev2/Intermediate/Safetyboat. Don't worry though as there is normally time to fill some gaps in your knowledge whilst on the course.
As with most practical courses, assesment is ongoing throughout the course (commercial endorsement is different) Therefore your instructor has to make subjective decisions about your performance. He/she should give you an idea of how you are doing via thorough de briefing sessions etc. If they don't, ASK THEM.
As with all learning experiences in this life, the quality of that experience is largely down to the individual running the course. Do your research well, before you choose where to take the course.
Top Tip...in my experience the most common reason for attendees not reaching the required standard is their lack of 'Navigation' knowledge. Bone up on the Day Skipper theory course and all should be fine!
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Old 22 September 2007, 04:12   #20
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First Aid is 3 yrs for these purposes and can be from most governing bodies.

Most people do the RYA 1 day or MCA STCW'95 1 day but you can use

EFR Primary and Secondry Care
HSE Appointed Person
HSE First Aid at Work
St John or Red Cross 1 day and countless others
Doug - I asked my first aid trainers in an email how long my STCW95 Medical First Aid on Ship (3 day course) would last and they replied with the answer "5 years". Is that because it was the 3 day course and not the one day version? Or were they wrong?
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