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Old 14 March 2009, 13:07   #11
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Intersting question - however if its my boat , its my rules about everything. - end of discussion. Today for example before moving I made it quit clear to 2 mates from work ( not a huge amount of boating exp that what I say they do & not to feel 'abused' if I get a bit direct - its for their & my & the boats safety .

However I dont always insist on life jackets - I do a mental risk assesment around speed / conditions & the persons experiance on MY boat each time.

If in my view I deem them competent enough to hold on/ experienced to be reading the situation/sea , & we are going slow, & its calm I dont force them - but if its in any way rough the boat doesn't move until everyone is secure and has been told that they are auto jackets , but have a manual pull if needed for any reason etc etc.
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Old 14 March 2009, 13:15   #12
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The wearing of a lifejacket should be left up to the individual. But the skipper should ensure a suitable lifejacket is provided for each person.

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I don't agree Andy. The safety of all on board is the responsibility of the skipper. If I'm the skipper all wear lifejackets period. No LJ no go!! I think this is a no-brainer in the boats we drive!
Who in their right mind would drive a car without a seatbelt? Same thing here who would go to sea without wearing a LJ?
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The safety of all on board is the responsibility of the skipper.
Yep, strongly agree
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I've always thought it was quite simple. If the skipper is happy with conditions, then it's personal choice re lifejackets. However, if the skipper says LJs on please, then that's what you do. If you're a guest on someone's boat and you don't listen to the skipper, then maybe you don't get asked back.

Sounds like this group went on regiular trips, so if they're all good mates it's a bit tricky to not invite someone next time though.
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What is the problem with wearing a life jacket, These days they are very unrestrictive and after awhile you forget you have one on. There is no set speed, weather condition or sea state that can not catch somebody out regardless of there experiance. I just can,t see the problem with putting on a life jacket to go out to sea, as allready said you do it in a car.
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You wear a life-jacket in your car?
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Old 16 March 2009, 13:45   #17
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You wear a life-jacket in your car?
Have you seen the auto inflating ones for bikes - linked to a kill cord. Now we can have whole thread about wearing a kill cord on a bike ! GREAT !

The lifejacket in my car is called an airbag ( but I dont wear it as such - only after crashing )
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There is no disadvantage to wearing a life jacket and everything to gain its just a macho thing that i am so good i don,t need one.
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I always wear a lifejacket just to set an example really - have never fallen off a boat in 19 years, but not worth the risk!
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I've always thought it was quite simple. If the skipper is happy with conditions, then it's personal choice re lifejackets. However, if the skipper says LJs on please, then that's what you do. If you're a guest on someone's boat and you don't listen to the skipper, then maybe you don't get asked back.

Sounds like this group went on regiular trips, so if they're all good mates it's a bit tricky to not invite someone next time though.
I agree with you Mike. It's a bit like house rules and should be set in stone to anyone who wants to come on board.
Although if it was good mates of mine I know I wouldn't mince my words. After all, if they are good mates they would respect what I was asking up get a friendly smack in the chops
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