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14 November 2006, 21:23
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: Newport
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rule bilge pump
Hi
I have just bought a ribcraft 585 and the last owner has had the automatic feature of the bilge pump diabled due to battery drain and the boat being stored on racking.
any idea's how he may have done this? I have the boat in a Marina now and would like the pump working when required.
He did mention that "a wire may have been cut" it was my understanding that the auto pumps worked on a float switch.
is it just a case of replacing the pump or could a wire have been cut in the console for example?
cheers
Tom
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14 November 2006, 21:49
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
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Assuming it's the type that pulses every 2 mins to check for water then there should be 3 wires. Black and Brown are normal feeds - the other brown should go straight to the battery via a fuse. I assume it's this brown wire that's been cut - just splice another wire straight to the battery.
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14 November 2006, 21:56
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Country: UK - England
Town: Cowes, Isle of Wight
Boat name: Ditherer
Make: Avon Adventure 620
Length: 6m +
Engine: Optimax 135
MMSI: 235032203
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Our bilge pump drained our battery, no trouble.
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14 November 2006, 22:03
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My battery is fine - it's a new 120amp/hr - the old one was useless but it was knackered anyway(thanks Jason).
Obviously a bilge pump will drain a battery if it has lot's of water to pump. When mine wasn't working the boat could easily fill with about a ton of water in just a day of torrential rain. That's 1000 litres which takes about 40 mins to pump out so that is about 4 or 5 amps a day if it's very wet.
If there is NO water to pump the cycling on and off uses a tiny amount.
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14 November 2006, 22:08
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Cowes, Isle of Wight
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I would prefer to leave our on, but its all rather disapointing when one goes down for a whizz and the engine won't turn over.
To be honest, I don't understand about amps and hours etc.
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14 November 2006, 22:15
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Linlithgow
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Make: FunYak
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn
My battery is fine - it's a new 120amp/hr - the old one was useless but it was knackered anyway(thanks Jason).
Obviously a bilge pump will drain a battery if it has lot's of water to pump. When mine wasn't working the boat could easily fill with about a ton of water in just a day of torrential rain. That's 1000 litres which takes about 40 mins to pump out so that is about 4 or 5 amps a day if it's very wet.
If there is NO water to pump the cycling on and off uses a tiny amount.
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[pedantic mode = ON]
Codders - normally you are such a stickler for units  . The correct unit for battery "size" is Ah, rather than A/h . Similarly I assume you mean 4-5 Ah per day.
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14 November 2006, 22:32
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No I meant it uses 4 to 5 amps of current per day in total or to put it another way 48 to 60w - of course these are very approximate figures as rainfall is rather erratic to say the least!!!
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14 November 2006, 22:33
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy Moore
Our bilge pump drained our battery, no trouble.
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Yes but that's cos it was draining your bilge - the only solution is an overall cover or a windmill.....
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15 November 2006, 08:24
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Member
Country: UK - England
Boat name: Mr Blue Sky
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: E-Tec 90
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On my Ribcraft the automatic bilge pump can be isolated by a switch on the console so it doesn't cycle when not required. I know you will have checked it's not just a switch, won't you?
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15 November 2006, 08:49
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Town: Stanley, Falkland Is
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Length: 5m +
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How about a little solar panel, like you find on agricultural electric fencing units, to keep the battery topped up?
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