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Old 26 August 2009, 08:18   #121
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Good, informative article.
Do you also put semi-displacement hulls into your category of good seagoing vessels for rough water, or do you make a distinction?

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Semi displacement covers a multitude of sins. Many boats described as such are really only planing hulls with less horsepower - for example Grand Banks. it is a big grey area really.

Most of the best semi displacement hulls are British - Hardy - Nelson - Mitchell - most lifeboats and of course Guernsey's own Aquastar - one of my dream boats!!!

The biggest downside with them is huge fuel consumption at speed - you can drop down to displacement speeds and they are a lot better but at 20kts they drink a lot - far more than a true planing craft would.

When I mentioned Colin Archer earlier here is one of my favourite boats - the Fisher range - will look after you in anything. With a rounded stern who cares if a wave catches you? That piccy shows one carry full sail in a Force 8.

I love heavy displacemnt craft - trawler yachts etc but for a bit more luxury here is a lovely boat 96' long - with as 12,000 mile range - up for 500,000 - 1/2 the price of an Aquastar 64!!!
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Old 26 August 2009, 08:42   #123
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Ohhh Aquastar ...hmmmm...nice!
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The finest Nelson builder around are Dale from Pembrokeshire.

http://www.dalenelson.co.uk/nelson-38/default.asp

If you want top notch quality this is the boat to buy - but 750,000 for a 38 footer???

Their order books are full........
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Yes, Codprawn

Lovely boats:
Aquastar or old Nelsons or Weymouths. The motorsailer looks like a Fisher 37, similar to a Banjer 37, which I also like.

Funny you say that about planing hulls. I know someone who has a Botnia Targa 25 (pretty much sold as all weather boats), but he doesn't go out much in the rough. Once I asked him to pick up something for me, and he took three hours on what is usually a one hour trip - a bit of swell he said. Of course, it is better to err on the side of prudence than to court disaster, but it makes you think: if these boats are all weather....
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I like the Botnias but I don't think the smaller ones work as well. The 31 is pretty good and the 44 is awesome but again if the conditions were truly bad I would rather something like a Nelson.

Another planing boat that is awesome in the rough that I have been on a few times is a Cygnus pilot 33.

http://www.cygnusmarine.co.uk/boats/...cs.asp?lMdl=27
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There's a local guy runs a pilot 33. Bloody nice boat. Never been on it but it looks top notch!
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I looked at a couple of Nelsons and similar boats before deciding on a rib. Great seakeeping, but I found the Perkins 6354's a bit noisy, and smelly (diesel fumes, especially when cold).

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That piccy shows one carry full sail in a Force 8.
which one?
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The middle one - i remember reading the review many moons ago and being so impressed - they said they were sailing in a froce 8 under full sail with out any reefs.
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