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Old 09 January 2012, 12:38   #41
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I must say that I am disappointed to read some of the comments left on this.
I'm always disappointed about negative comment regarding my own business. I always hear it out though, as my customers are putting food on my table. They're often wrong, but I usually learn something of use to me. I work on the assumption that if one goes to the trouble of telling me, there are nine more who just walk away...

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You give what YOU feel is right it is not just charities asking for more money banks, mechanics, shops, all do the same as someone said it is a business and times are hard.
These are not comparable examples as they provide a service/product to the payer. I hope never to require the services of the RNLI, or OXFAM. My subscription isn't an insurance policy. I suspect that the majority of those rescued have not donated previously.

No, I do it because there is a need there for such people and it has to be supported. I give what I give. I didn't like being tapped for a bit more before I felt I wanted to give it.

Imagine, you're walking down the High Street. You drop a fiver in the blokes tin. He's says "Is that it matey? £5? A tenner would be more useful!"

Maybe "Greedy" was the wrong term in the thread title. I should have said "Cheeky"

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Old 09 January 2012, 12:43   #42
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No so many really. My first instinct was option 1, but I'd never do it, I have far too much respect for what they do. Some marketing low-life made that decision and I'm not going to stop supporting the RNLI because of it. However, if I felt that way maybe others do too. Maybe THEY will stop giving. That is my main concern. I wonder what the requests for more money actually netted the RNLI - I guess they know what they're at?
as objectionable as they are you can be sure that they will result in a net increase in proceeds - squeezing money out of people is what these guys do.

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There's some: Community Rescue Boats - I realise they might not be on your doorstep but if you wanted to make a point and help people using SIBs for rescue whilst you are waiting to be reinstated to the world of rib ownership I bet any of them would be grateful.
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Old 09 January 2012, 13:00   #43
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I can’t see why people are complaining about the RNLI, don’t you feel safe in the knowledge there is a service like this in the UK. If you’re in trouble out on the sea its nice to know that a complete stranger will come and help you for free!
I have been a crewmember for 16 years and donated 100hrs for free and also some of my own cash to the RNLI and will continue to do so.

To the person who says the boats are over spec can I ask would you get up at 3am in force 9 winds knowing the boats not capable???? I didn’t think so. The boats are built to withstand the worse conditions imaginable and that costs money. Crewmen and women want to go out and come home as well and if the RNLI cut corners on the build of their boats then this might not happen.
All I can say to be asked for a donation isn’t a bad thing and I can guarantee anybody who has been helped by the RNLI and its crews will agree.
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I canít see why people are complaining about the RNLI, donít you feel safe in the knowledge there is a service like this in the UK. If youíre in trouble out on the sea its nice to know that a complete stranger will come and help you for free!
I have been a crewmember for 16 years and donated 100hrs for free and also some of my own cash to the RNLI and will continue to do so.

To the person who says the boats are over spec can I ask would you get up at 3am in force 9 winds knowing the boats not capable???? I didnít think so. The boats are built to withstand the worse conditions imaginable and that costs money. Crewmen and women want to go out and come home as well and if the RNLI cut corners on the build of their boats then this might not happen.
All I can say to be asked for a donation isnít a bad thing and I can guarantee anybody who has been helped by the RNLI and its crews will agree.
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To the person who says the boats are over spec can I ask would you get up at 3am in force 9 winds knowing the boats not capable???? I didnít think so..
Think you may find that he does,,lol if its chewys comment your refering to.
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Imagine, you're walking down the High Street. You drop a fiver in the blokes tin. He's says "Is that it matey? £5? A tenner would be more useful!"
Willk - you must be doing too much internet shopping these days and not enough time on the high st - the collecting tin is very much a thing of the past - any self respecting charity extracts the money from its donors using the power of the "Chugger" with clipboard and direct debit mandate form. Any should you fail to body swerve them you'll find they have a "suggested amount" you would like to give!
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Willk - you must be doing too much internet shopping these days and not enough time on the high st - the collecting tin is very much a thing of the past - any self respecting charity extracts the money from its donors using the power of the "Chugger" with clipboard and direct debit mandate form. Any should you fail to body swerve them you'll find they have a "suggested amount" you would like to give!
Yes, and if you want the money to go to the charity and not to be paying the chugger for recruiting you, go and do it direct.
The chuggers don't work for the charity-they work for a 'recruitment' company and they get paid by results.
From memory the last lot I came up against (NOT RNLI by the way) were getting £15 a time to sign people up to a £3/month donation.

Round here they are such a pain in the neck that I've had to put an 'anti chugger' sign on the door. If I signed up to every one that was banging on the door, I'd go bankrupt in a month.
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Willk - you must be doing too much internet shopping these days and not enough time on the high st - the collecting tin is very much a thing of the past - any self respecting charity extracts the money from its donors using the power of the "Chugger" with clipboard and direct debit mandate form.
I think it may depend on where you live as to the attitude of the charity and their colletors. Like, I suspect, Willk too we live in a smaller more insular community where many of the collectors and tin-shakers are still voluntary and they collect a hell of a lot down our main shopping street on a Saturday. That's not just the RNLI, it's various other organisations too. I can understand in the UK where many of the towns and cities are a bit more removed from the sea that more 'persuasion' may be required to extract your loose change. Perhaps we feel we're more likely to see a direct benefit from our donation as there is normally tangible evidence. A new drop-in centre, a new lifeboat etc etc. I do agree that the larger charities seem to be more of a business than I'd like to imagine, but I guess where money is involved (and liability) that is inevitable.
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For what it's worth I think that the RNLI Rescue service do a fantastic job It's the Funding department that need to improve their customer public relations, but perhaps they don't need to? How much funding do they get from professional organisations?

What limited money I have left over from feeding my family, housing my family, day to day living and the odd holiday goes towards more local charities like GAFIRS and Hamble lifeboat. That way I know my money is being used more wisely and not going on commision and wages before the remainder goes to the local RNLI stations.
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we had the same trouble with guide dogs for the blind we donated for a year then changed to donating to the air ambulance, lots of guide dog stuff through the letter box and into the recyle bin ,we did phone and ask to be removed from the mailing list but the guide dog people havent bothered we now donate to air ambulance and millitary charities only
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