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Old 05 February 2006, 16:54   #1
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RNLI Atlantic flip

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does anyone have the video of an Atlantic class rib doing a flip leaving harbour?
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Old 05 February 2006, 17:20   #2
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I think you should find the details here:

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/whitslb/capsize.htm

link to video on that page too.
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An all weather lifeboat may have been more appropriate for the conditions?
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If it had been me at the Helm I'd have been comming towards the camera .

Wouldn't a slight angle of attack into the waves have helped, might have prevented the bow from rising as much.
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If it had been me at the Helm I'd have been comming towards the camera .

Wouldn't a slight angle of attack into the waves have helped, might have prevented the bow from rising as much.
Very diffcult situation, if to much power used and you fly over the wave this could happen especially when so close to coast and in braking waves.

This has not happen to me but we did go out in bad weather, freezing and night so often we did not see the waves but radar showed really nothing but either full vision or land......... before time of GPS and we did not have Loran C onboard as they where not waterproof.

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Wouldn't a slight angle of attack into the waves have helped, might have prevented the bow from rising as much. [/QUOTE]

An interesting question! I always take really big waves head on (when I've been unable to maneouvre round them!), presuming that using the boat's full length gives the best stability. "Tacking" across smaller waves is a great way of making quick progress, with a more comfortable ride, but in big (breaking) waves there must be a risk of rolling the RIB. I don't think that the Atlantic 21 helmsman would have fared any better in this capsize if he'd used a tacking angle, but I will be interested to hear other opinions.
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l looked at this a few times. It does look as if he was trying to pick his way through the breaking waves (missing the breakers as we all get taught) and i think in these conditions the angle would have made no difference, in fact you would probaly get caught out in such conditions. It looks like he as unlucky as the wave came under the bow just as he was trying to get over in. Half a ton of weight on the front may have helped.

The conditions look just to bad for any rib, must be a difficult one not to go out if you are the RNLI in this boat.

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I still think many RIBs are too tail heavy - either have a bow ballast tank or chuck all the crew up front in such conditions!!!
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Not too convinced it would be easy to coxes said crew forward in these sorts of conditions…. Mind you if you where to mention the almost certain capsize this may encourage the team to shift, quick smart.
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