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Old 06 January 2007, 15:46   #41
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Svetlana Hello! I telephoned you on Friday about. We are very interested to know more about the boat. If possible, I would like to ask a few questions. First I realized 15,000 euros is the value of the boat without an engine, could you find its value together with the built-dizel-dwigatelem approximately 300 hp otechestvenogo and / or import of production, including the cost of installation of the engine. We would like to get bus picture and know what certificates she has. Just for information, I am speaking as a private buyer. Thank you very much in advance.
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Old 06 January 2007, 16:13   #42
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the translation machine is good , is it a british one ?

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Old 06 January 2007, 16:30   #43
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Здравствуйте Светлана!

Я звонила Вам в пятницу по поводу.
Мы очень заинтересованы узнать побольше о лодке.
Если возможно я хотела бы задать несколько вопросов.
Первое как я поняла 15000 евро это стоимость лодки без мотора, не могли бы Вы посчитать ее стоимость вместе с встроенным дизель-двигателем приблизительно на 300 л.с. отечественого и/или импортного производства, включая стоимость установки этого двигателя. Еще нам бы хотелось увидет побольше фото и узнать какие сертификаты она имеет .

Просто для информации я выступаю как частный покупатель.

Большое спасибо заранее.
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Hello Svetlana!

I called you on Friday on this subject.

We are very interested to know more about the boat.

If possible, I would like to ask a few questions.

The first one: As I understood, the cost of the boat is 15000 Euros without the engine. Could you calculate the cost together with a built-in diesel engine of approximatety 300 HP, the engine to be either a domestic make or an imported one, including the cost of installing the engine? We would also like to see more photos and hear from you what certificates the boat has.

Just for your info, I am a private buyer.

Many thanks in advance.
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it would be interested to hear what Svetlana had to say
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Old 06 January 2007, 16:33   #44
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Sorry for wrong spelling. I meant that Japan which was never a very industrial country before the Second World War and which was a rip off by the Americans after the war could create a very fast industrial empire. So please don't assume it was a developed country!
Ahh so nothing really to do with business marketing! I think you will find that in the late 60s the Japanese motor cycle production facilities were pretty advanced (for their time) - which is what I was getting at by "developed". How the country came to become ecconomically successful is a whole separate issue. My point is that IMHO Russia is, not yet, in the competitive position economically and industrially compared to the rest of the world that Japan was in the 60s. oh and probably more importantly there were people doing the importing and support for you not diy. However it is distracting somewhat from aim of the thread whatever that may have been
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japanese miracle

I am not going to agrue with IMHO
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Don't argue with IMHO - He'll kick your ass!
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Old 06 January 2007, 18:12   #47
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i dont argue with stupid and rude comments either
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Old 06 January 2007, 20:15   #48
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I meant that Japan which was never a very industrial country before the Second World War and which was a rip off by the Americans after the war could create a very fast industrial empire.
Hmmm. I are one and I don't mean Japanese. Just what in your opinion was it that made Japan a "rip off by the Americans"? You sir are foaming at the mouth. I'm sure you're a good man at heart but your presentation lends itself to serious questions relative to your knowlege and motive.

By the way....for a country that "was never a very industrial country before WWII," Japan did a pretty good job of building equipment for an Air Force, Army and Navy that occupied a better portion of Asia and the Central Pacific.

In the Caribbean we don't like bland beans and rice. Thank you Tango for spicing up the forum. I'm sure the Cryllic email answered everyone's questions.

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Old 07 January 2007, 16:43   #49
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I would also suggest that Japan was more ecconomically developed, and founded on strong legal/business principles which (once understood) makes it more apealing to work with than Russia, where having bundles of US dollars in brown envelopes will probably help a lot. Finally my understanding is that Japan can make goods efficiently by using efficient processes, and possibly a different work ethos, but not through paying people a pitance.
This is not me who started this comparing this industrial statement of Russia and Japan in the past and insulted other nations. But i still can't understand properly in what reprect they were compared and how this related to the quality of rib building? I just can say that to insult an other country that you clearly know little about is rude. I think an opinion that builders who has biult many ships for Soviet Union navy can't build a RIB sounds qiute stupid as well. It just sounds for me like a reaction of people who are scared that their last industril pride could be taken away by foreign country as it has happened already with other fields of our industry here.
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May I suggest you are trying to "piss into the wind" Also, your spelling and grammar do not help your position. I think this thread is going down hill.
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