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Old 16 November 2014, 13:18   #21
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Old 16 November 2014, 14:20   #22
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So "intending to board" another vessel is a crime? I would have thought the actual boarding was the crime. Collision/ramming is the only crime I'm seeing committed here so far. Perhaps its justified but at least with land based trespass we don't typically use uncontrolled forces (car ramming?) to prevent that in the West.
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So "intending to board" another vessel is a crime? I would have thought the actual boarding was the crime. Collision/ramming is the only crime I'm seeing committed here so far. Perhaps its justified but at least with land based trespass we don't typically use uncontrolled forces (car ramming?) to prevent that in the West.
Have to agree with you Captn.

If I tell people I'm going to climb a tall building to hang a protest banner from it, do it peaceably and not hurt anyone; then as I am driving towards it I, usually, would not expect to get rammed by a police car.
Certainly if I was mad enough to attempt to do this then the police are right to prevent me so that I do not cause damage - intentional or not. But there are limits to their powers to prevent me. Ramming my car and possibly causing further danger to life and limb is an excessive amount of force and not appropriate to the circumstance. Surely that applies here as well?
Just because it is the sea and they can do it with the power of their boats does not mean that they should - or should be allowed to do so.

On the lighter side it does bring to mind one little sib with two Guards (Irish police) on board that rammed into Donegaldans Deep Six under the O'Connell Bridge in Dublin one fine afternoon. Seems they were sent out to find out why a flotilla of English / Welsh and Irish boats was on its way up the Liffey. Thought it was some sort of protest they did. With a few chosen words Donegaldan soon put them to right
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Spanny's have a reputation for this sort of thing...
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Spanny's have a reputation for this sort of thing...
See - that's what I know. I make a point of sussing out the plod in the various places I end up. "Local customs" vary greatly and I think one should respect that. In Ireland it is considered acceptable to push police personnel around and verbally abuse them, whereas I wouldn't imagine that behaviour getting you anything other than shot in the USA. Not sure I'd try it in France either. In fact, there aren't many police forces in the world that would take the cr@p dished out to rozzers in the UK and Ireland. When in Rome Spain and all that....
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Unfortunately we only see one side of the story in that video.
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interesting legal differences in other countries. Over here in the USA it's generally frowned upon to beat, assault, or kill passive protesters/people. The cops still do it all the time then have to be subjected to a full and thorough review before they cleared of all wrong doing.
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